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  1. Bob Savage

    Bob Savage Well-Known Member

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    You know, I gotta' say you could not entice me to give up my 33 year old slide-in, because it out-performs other truckmounts to the point I am able to run dual wands 300' from the van (that's 600' of vac hose), blistering heat, and plenty of flow for #8 and a #6 wand, with reliable APO. All this is accomplished using a Roots #45 blower, a Cat pump, and a Honda GX-670.

    I have replaced 4 motors, had one rebuilt, am on the second Roots #45 blower, and am using the original Cat pump which has been rebuilt a few times over the years by me.

    How much money would you save if you never had to purchase another truckmount in over 33 years of cleaning, and still had your everyday machine as powerful as you would ever need?

    MAX AIR, do you clean now and need a dual wand machine, or are you just thinking you need one?

    Have you run a dual wand machine before and that's why you want one?
     
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  2. Kyle8

    Kyle8 Well-Known Member

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    Dang whats brand
     
  3. Buster123

    Buster123 Active Member

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    1st choice Butler
    2nd choice Butler
    3rd choice Butler
     
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  4. Bob Savage

    Bob Savage Well-Known Member

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    #64 Bob Savage, May 13, 2017
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    It was made by Cleaning Technologies out of Georgia (http://www.cleaningtechnologies.com...2867/4_-_The_EXCALIBUR_Carpet_Cleaning_System). It came with a Roots #45 blower, a Cat 290 pump, and a Little Giant 3-HT heater.

    It was simple. but rugged, and super easy to work on.

    So I worked on it and modified it, still keeping it simple, but making it waaaay more powerful -

    ....added our patented 220,00 BTU LP heater with no pilot to fuss with, and an automatic pilot re-lighter in case of any wind, a modified recovery tank for maximum airflow to run dual wands, a reliable APO that requires very little attention, and plenty of power for even the toughest jobs.

    I paid $6500 for it in 1985, which included all hoses and reels, plus an aluminum portable machine built by them, a wand, a stair tool, and a bunch of chemicals.

    Now that is 32 years of not having to fork out money for a new machine.

    With the same amount of money coming in, and less going out, equates to more income for the same amount of work done.

    ...and it is still going STRONG.
     
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  5. Qwikdry

    Qwikdry Well-Known Member

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    Hi Bob, are there any modifications that can be done on a small 33 blower to increase cfm or vacuum in any way?
     
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  6. mike$

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    You run duel wands, at 600 ft of hose, on a 45 blower?

    Sounds like a crock... Can you pick up a feather at the the end of the lines?
     
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  7. Bob Savage

    Bob Savage Well-Known Member

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    #67 Bob Savage, May 20, 2017
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    Obviously you do not have a clue as to how this machine is put together, so I will excuse your ignorance.

    I do NOT run 300' of hose usually, but I get screaming vacuum at the end of each hose at 300' - that's 150' per wand, not 300' per wand; and it is dual wands, not duel wands!

    I can't even carry 600' of vacuum hose in the van. lol...
     
  8. Bob Savage

    Bob Savage Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I would have to know your machine in order to advise.
     
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  9. Qwikdry

    Qwikdry Well-Known Member

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    Bob, I have a white magic rebel. I removed the whole front panel, removed all the wiring. Mounted a 14hp predator engine and also replaced the engine drive pulley with a 5.5" driving a 4.5" pulley on the blower. It is just over 1:1 pulley ratio. I have the original 80gallon waste tank. I want to remove the heat exchangers, they are both damaged. What can I do to get more performance out of the blower?
     
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  10. Bob Savage

    Bob Savage Well-Known Member

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    No I don't run 600' of hose - that would be a crock. If the job is that far away, I would clean with a different setup.

    But like I said, I do occasionally run up to 220' with one wand and 125' with the other, at the same time.

    When you are running 2 wands, one wand is at the furthest point, and the second wand is half way there so we can finish up at about the same time.
     
  11. Kyle8

    Kyle8 Well-Known Member

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    Nice machines i just looked at the website and am very impressed.
     
  12. Kyle8

    Kyle8 Well-Known Member

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    Thesemachines are so nice i would love to buy one
     
  13. Bob Savage

    Bob Savage Well-Known Member

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    What size hose is going from the blower to the waste tank? I run two 2" hoses from my #45 blower (2.5") intake into a 2" X 2" X 2.5" T to the waste tank. I also use an over-sized silencer (4" intake and exhaust) to reduce any back-pressure on the blower. if you are removing the HX's from your unit, you may want to replace the blower silencer with a slightly larger one. What then are you going to use for heat? New HX's or a fossil fuel heating system?

    In your case it would be 2" X 2" X 2" T to the waste tank. I would then run a short piece of 2.5" vac hose to the machine front panel where you would connect your vac hose (2") thru a 2" to 2.5" converter. This would increase your vacuum stream at the source and would help maintain your CFM, not create more to the wand.

    Over-driving the blower, as you are doing, is already in place. I have an 8" pulley on the motor, and a 7" pulley on the blower to increase the belt contact area, and use a belt tensioner from Motion Industries to keep tension on the drive belt. I use a "B" 48" drive belt.

    What RPM do you run your machine? I run at 3000 RPM which reduces gas usage and still gives me plenty of vacuum. The faster the blower spins the more CFM it creates.
     
  14. Kyle8

    Kyle8 Well-Known Member

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    You are a very very knowledgeable worth truckmounts. I may have to but my next truck mount from you
     
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    Qwikdry Well-Known Member

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    I have a single 2.5" marine grade hose from blower to 2.5" barb on the waste tank. I run it at 3000 to 3600 RPM. Mostly 3000
     
  16. Kyle8

    Kyle8 Well-Known Member

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    One day when your in ogden you should let me check your machine man. I live in washington terrace
     
  17. Qwikdry

    Qwikdry Well-Known Member

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    sure thing Kyle
     
  18. Kyle8

    Kyle8 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like your making thw best out of your truckmount
     
  19. Kyle8

    Kyle8 Well-Known Member

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    Send some pics of your machine
     
  20. Wayne Thompson

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    Judson TNT single wand, Judson C-4 for a 2 wand system. I have the TNT with a #4 blower.
    It could not be better or easier to work on and do maintenance on. Heat is crazy I have never had to run it all the way up on the thermostat. I like propane it is hot and clean. I chose the propane engine so that I did not have to tap into the existing gas tank and the engine lasts longer on propane.

    www.tntcpt.com/store
     
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