what is butyl?

[kennedy]

The reason I ask is I have read a few threads about butyl, and I just bought some Prochem upholstery cleaner containing butyl, that mixes 8 oz per gal, that gets the cost down to 2.5 cents per oz compared to 25 cents per oz for other cleaners that are pure or mix 1 part to 1 part water. . So what is the good and bad on butyl?

 

[Dr Cleaning]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butyl
Its a great cleaner and still used a lot in floor care. Floor Strippers
I have tried to stop using do to its said its a cancer causing product.

 

[Joseph Rogers]

Ethyl-Methyl bad shit.

Solvent that can cause lung problems, from what I understand.

 

[Frank DiGi]

I agree with Neil I try not to use products that have it in it.

 

[Larry Cobb]

Bruce;

Butyl is a nickname for Butyl Cellosolve,

a very good water soluble grease solvent.

You should not allow it to soak into your skin.

You should not breathe mists of it from presprays.

Alternative solvents such as d'Limonene, have displaced some "butyl" applications.

Larry

 

[bob519]

That reminds me wear gloves do not inhale .


Carpet cleaning Windsor
www.elementsrestoration.ca

 

[Clean-Team]

Butyl is better referred to as 2-Butoxyethanol or Ethylene Glycol Monobutyl Ether. It is a water solvable surfactant and solvent which has two "hands" if you will. An alcohol hand and an ether hand. This means it will couple up to both oil and water molecules and therefor helps water wet greasy soils.

It is generally safe as compared with using other volatile solvents such as ether and chloroform. It seems to cause respiratory distress in some people however. Personally I prefer butyl based chems over other types simply because they are so effective and I tolerate it well. If you are using the product In well ventilated areas and keep sprays close to the floor there ought not to be too many issues with it.

Grant

 

[bob_rugratz]

Butyl is a killer cleaner. Take that both ways I guess.. depends on who you listen to. I am very careful with butyl based products as you should be with any chemical. If you clean a house with small children. Recommend that they not play on carpet for at least 4 hours. Or until completely dry and vacuumed . Same precaution's they should use cleaning anything with any method.

side note about chemical and spraying. Personally I would love to wear a mask when spraying carpets or anything. But imagine the message. They would be thinking they should have one two. But TBH really I am the one right on top of it when spraying. I do ask that the hvac and all fans are off prior to spraying. i just say I don't want it to dry the cleaner up. bout 5 minutes on the hvac and fans on soon as carpet rinse.

 

[bob_rugratz]

Butyl is better referred to as 2-Butoxyethanol or Ethylene Glycol Monobutyl Ether. It is a water solvable surfactant and solvent which has two "hands" if you will. An alcohol hand and an ether hand. This means it will couple up to both oil and water molecules and therefor helps water wet greasy soils.

It is generally safe as compared with using other volatile solvents such as ether and chloroform. It seems to cause respiratory distress in some people however. Personally I prefer butyl based chems over other types simply because they are so effective and I tolerate it well. If you are using the product In well ventilated areas and keep sprays close to the floor there ought not to be too many issues with it.

Grant

You said butyl has 2 hands. One being "ether hand. then you say butyl is safe compared to using ether" . explain? was that type o. Or am I missing something

Chloroform is safe !!! It knocks customer out and you can clean carpets in peace, and make yourself a sandwich. Watch a little TV. Before they come around.
They are so happy when they wake up to clean carpets they don't notice the sandwich gone.

 

[Clean-Team]

You said butyl has 2 hands. One being "ether hand. then you say butyl is safe compared to using ether" . explain? was that type o. Or am I missing something

Chloroform is safe !!! It knocks customer out and you can clean carpets in peace, and make yourself a sandwich. Watch a little TV. Before they come around.
They are so happy when they wake up to clean carpets they don't notice the sandwich gone.

Sure I'll try and explain.

I said it has two hands. It does, it has some of the benefits of ether, it's solvency, but it doesn't present the dangers such as sedation.

One hand is ether the other is alcohol. Pure ether is just ether. This is why butyl is acceptable to use and doesn't knock people out.

I also say that it's better and safer the using chloroform, again it provides similar solvency but without the issue of sedation

Hope this helps you.

Grant.

 

[Joseph Rogers]

You said butyl has 2 hands. One being "ether hand. then you say butyl is safe compared to using ether" . explain? was that type o. Or am I missing something

Chloroform is safe !!! It knocks customer out and you can clean carpets in peace, and make yourself a sandwich. Watch a little TV. Before they come around.
They are so happy when they wake up to clean carpets they don't notice the sandwich gone.

Creepy...

 

[Clean-Team]

Guys water contains Hydrogen and Oxygen, but it doesn't burn. But it can be used to oxidize metals.

Chemical compounds can inherit "some" of their component's properties and not others.

Butyl can dissolve things in a similar way to ether, but that doesn't make it the literally the same as ether.

It also offers water solubility similar to alcohol, but it isn't alcohol. Alcohol burns but butyl, which contains alcohol is used in fire fighting foam

The chemistry of compounds gets very involved. It's been years since I did year 12 chemistry. I remember a bit though.

It's a substance that is hard to describe in general - non chemical terms. Thought I'd take a stab at it.

Grant.

 

[Beeks]

nice thread, give me some more!

I know there is another chemical that is usually mentioned with Butyl that is frowned upon by some, what is it called and why is it "bad"?

 

[Johnny Bravo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butyl
Its a great cleaner and still used a lot in floor care. Floor Strippers
I have tried to stop using do to its said its a cancer causing product.

thanks, but that wiki link just confused me even more.

 

[Clean-Team]

nice thread, give me some more!

I know there is another chemical that is usually mentioned with Butyl that is frowned upon by some, what is it called and why is it "bad"?

Oh man I don't know.

There are lots of chemicals that are controversial. Phosphates make detergents great cleaners and they really help soften water, but they feed algae and cyano bacteria that grow in our waterways. They upset the balance of ecology in plants, making weeds grow out of control and in the process stifle other plants. They also poison the soil and groundwater.

Alcohols disolve fats and oils and make water based cleaners dry faster. They kill germs and help sanitise. They obviously have flammable fumes and the fumes if very concentrated destroy brain tissue.

Formaldehyde cleans and sterilises well. It breaks up fats in a similar way to alcohol but direct physical contact, or inhalation of the fumes is carcinogenic.

Ammonia is a strong alkaline and is great at cleaning glass and hard surfaces, it also dissolves greasy soils. But the fumes are very irritating and cause asthmatic reactions in some people. Furthermore if cleaners containing ammonia are accidentally mixed with chlorine bleach then a green poisonous gas is produced. This is mustard gas and was used as a chemical weapon in the First World War.

Chems are good and bad. Learn about them and use them with thought and care. That's all you can do.

Grant

 

[Deron06]

All the more reason to buy NuClean Fusion. It has no butyl and has tested to provide superior cleaning. I just bought a case of it. It uses enzyme, d'Limonene and oxidizers to get the job done.

If you don't believe me about how good it is, ask Torrey.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

This is why I'm jut going to use water from now on. Advantages of being a CL hack

 

[Johnny Bravo]

All the more reason to buy NuClean Fusion. It has no butyl and has tested to provide superior cleaning. I just bought a case of it. It uses enzyme, d'Limonene and oxidizers to get the job done.

Am actually thinking about doing the same thing Deron. Will have to make it a point to see them this coming week. It's just that the stuff is on the expensive side.

 

[Clean-Team]

All the more reason to buy NuClean Fusion. It has no butyl and has tested to provide superior cleaning. I just bought a case of it. It uses enzyme, d'Limonene and oxidizers to get the job done.

That's a good combo. But D'Limonene is a terpenoid. It is highly flammable, very poisonous to marine life and even other plants. Ever noticed how the decomposing fruit from citrus trees just makes the soil unsuitable for growing other plants?

Oxidisers burn living tissue which is why they sterilise surfaces and "burn" stains etc.

Nothing is entirely harmless.

Grant

 

[Deron06]

Am actually thinking about doing the same thing Deron. Will have to make it a point to see them this coming week. It's just that the stuff is on the expensive side.

Johnny Lightning, the price is $32.89 a 5 pound jar. This price is not high at all compared to their competition and I feel that they use higher quality oxidizers and such. This is one of the reasons why the performance is better.