What best for water/flood extraction? Truck-mount or portable flood pumper?

Welcome to our Community
Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to sign up today.
Sign up
Feb 17, 2018
6
0
1
Real Name
Steve Noftle
#1
I've been running a couple Butler Truck-mounts for the past 14 years in NY. We are primarily a restoration company but we do about 200K in carpet too. We have a couple portables but they don't have the CFM's for suction or capacity for waste water like the Butlers. The cost of purchasing a new Butler is significant so I'm sure there are viable options out there. I'm interested in what other restoration companies are doing for their primary method of water extraction. Thanks!
 

ACP

Well-Known Member
Apr 9, 2014
2,665
1,637
113
34
Washington
Real Name
Bjorn Marshall
#2
If your doing that much in just carpet and are primarily restoration then why wouldnt you just buy a brand new butler outright?

or an aero tech
 
Feb 17, 2018
6
0
1
Real Name
Steve Noftle
#3
Thanks for the feedback. Like I said I've been running two Butlers for the last 14 years and will most likely continue to do so in the future. I'm sure I would maintain one Butler.I love their reliability and convenience but I've heard some successful restoration companies are using portable flood pumpers instead of truck mounts.
 

rob allen

Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
Sep 5, 2007
33,444
15,873
113
Va.
www.drynclean.com
Real Name
Robert Allen,Jr.
Business Location
United States
#4
There is a company here that does about 3 million a year in flood work. They have no Truckmounts. All portables. Thought that was interesting.
 
Likes: Fedri
Feb 17, 2018
6
0
1
Real Name
Steve Noftle
#7
Use a combination of truckmounts and portables. If you can't reach something with the truck then you can do it with a porty. The last water damage I did we used both and we charged for each extractor which didn't matter whether it was truckmount of porty.
Thanks longkenn. At present, for extraction purposes we use our Butlers about 99% of the time. Typically, we just add more hose for longer reach applications. We use our portables when both trucks are already in use or other unique situations.
I need to upgrade both Butlers but thinking about dropping $35K per Butler verses 3K for a new portable causes me consider making a paradigm shift.
 

longkenn

Well-Known Member
May 7, 2011
4,821
2,267
113
Winston-Salem, North Carolina
www.sunbreezeclean.com
Real Name
Kenneth Long
Business Location
United States
#8
Thanks longkenn. At present, for extraction purposes we use our Butlers about 99% of the time. Typically, we just add more hose for longer reach applications. We use our portables when both trucks are already in use or other unique situations.
I need to upgrade both Butlers but thinking about dropping $35K per Butler verses 3K for a new portable causes me consider making a paradigm shift.
I would venture to guess that the Butlers would increase your production tremendously over any porty out there and do a better job overall!
 

Rem

Member
Jun 30, 2011
36
2
8
Real Name
Remington Reeder
Business Location
United States
#9
So no one has an answer to this? I am curious as well....best portable/setup for extraction purposes only
 

SRD

Well-Known Member
Nov 6, 2010
2,606
1,574
113
midwest
Real Name
Spencer Dawdy
Business Location
United States
#10
I would think being in new york parking and high rises would be a nightmare with a truckmount....thing about a portable if you get a big one with an apo and only run 50ft or less extraction only should be fine with the proper tools (water claw)
 

Scott W

Preferred Vendor
Premium VIP
Feb 14, 2006
15,825
6,163
113
66
West Jordan, UT
www.interlinksupply.com
#11
Flood pumper portables are the best choice to remove standing water or for areas that truckmounts can not reach or must have a long hose run. They also work well on commercial glue down carpet.

I would use a truckmount if it is wet carpet and cushion (rather than standing water) and if you can get to it with 200' of vacuum hose or less.

Some truckmount models allow you to run the vacuum without the pump being hooked to a water source. This is preferred for flood use.
 

Anderson

Well-Known Member
Aug 16, 2006
1,910
629
113
59
Belton Texas
#13
truckmount slide in with a pumpout....
can also just get a flood pumper wo heat and pressure poump
best option.....i have used both.....gotta have a pumpout!!!!!!

put it in any van ...box van........4 bolts.....8 for the tank......
fuel line and batte3ry cable line and your set

easier setup and you can do top down drying......
no electricity...poping circuits

best price also
 

Bob Savage

Well-Known Member
Mar 6, 2007
1,793
969
113
Dayton, OH
www.perfection-carpet.com
Real Name
Bob Savage
Business Location
United States
#14
For water extractions we use a stainless mini extractor with a 30 GPM APO.

It will extract non-stop for hours without stopping to dump anything. The APO more than keeps up! It uses a single 8.4 vac motor but has the ability to connect a second vac to the side port if you need more than 120' of hose.
 

Anderson

Well-Known Member
Aug 16, 2006
1,910
629
113
59
Belton Texas
#15
if your doing top down drying in other words not removing the pad....TM is a must

most restoration guys remove the padding so I am thinking you could do with a good portable with a reliable APO
 

EVDOG

Well-Known Member
Jul 25, 2015
629
270
63
44
Real Name
Evdog
#18
I've been running a couple Butler Truck-mounts for the past 14 years in NY. We are primarily a restoration company but we do about 200K in carpet too. We have a couple portables but they don't have the CFM's for suction or capacity for waste water like the Butlers. The cost of purchasing a new Butler is significant so I'm sure there are viable options out there. I'm interested in what other restoration companies are doing for their primary method of water extraction. Thanks!
Steve - I run a Butler as well. I was told by Butler it is not good to fully submerse the hose in standing water. How do you guys extract, let's say, two feet of standing water? I had that situation yesterday, but was scared to use my Butler, so I opted to use my portable flood pumper.
 
Feb 17, 2018
6
0
1
Real Name
Steve Noftle
#19
Steve - I run a Butler as well. I was told by Butler it is not good to fully submerse the hose in standing water. How do you guys extract, let's say, two feet of standing water? I had that situation yesterday, but was scared to use my Butler, so I opted to use my portable flood pumper.
 

Anderson

Well-Known Member
Aug 16, 2006
1,910
629
113
59
Belton Texas
#20
2 feet of standing water you could buy a small gas pump. From northern tools
That is what I would suggesthttps://m.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200418131_200418131