Up grade from portable to TM

[Baldy/pelon]

Hi guys I have a company cleaning houses and apartments and have portable but I want to upgrade to TM I have a budget of 18k to buy a TM, live in Oregon the nearest TM dealer is Jon-Don I want to know if SS Rage is strong enough to push 150 feet of hoe's or what other machine do you guys recommend and to clarif I live in Oregon thank you for helping and have a wonderful day

 

[matt30577]

Contact Brent @Mojo Rising . Don't let his avatar pic scare you. He's just weird about that kind of thing. He's a great guy. He's right up above you, and has great used truck mounts for sale.

https://shop.truckmountforums.com is a great company. That's where I bought my latest beast of a truck mount. I just think you should be able to get more than the Rage for $18k

 

[Baldy/pelon]

Hi Matt thank you for answering my post but I am looking for a brand new TM Jon-Don offered me a package for 17k "Rage 18hp" but I'm not sure if this kind of machine is going to able to suck up all the water using 150 feet of vacuum hose's. What do you recommend.
Thanks again

 

[Omar]

The only bad thing that ive read about the rage is that there are hard to reach components, other then that, its solid. Personally, i would try to get a 370, ive heard great things about them and you wont really need to upgrade.

 

[seagrtj]

The Rage is a decent unit for what it is. Yes you will have plenty of suction at 150ft. Just realize what you are getting. There is no pump clutch. It is a 3006 blower. You can't even compare it to a portable. You will be able to clean much much faster and much much better with a Rage over a portable.

You will be happy with it. Then when it makes you bunches of money you buy another one and upgrade it to the 370SS

 

[matt30577]

Hi Matt thank you for answering my post but I am looking for a brand new TM Jon-Don offered me a package for 17k "Rage 18hp" but I'm not sure if this kind of machine is going to able to suck up all the water using 150 feet of vacuum hose's. What do you recommend.
Thanks again

I've never used the rage, but from the way it's laid out, I don't want to use it for the price. If I were you, I'd give them the same offer for a Prochem Legend. Do some research on here and you'll want one too.

I'm sure the rage will perform at 150'. I just think you'll get more for your money with the Legend and better performance at 150'.

 

[Baldy/pelon]

Thanks seagrtj for the info and I really hope I can make money whit it

 

[earl804]

What all is included for 17k? That machine is about 12k list i believe

 

[Omar]

The lusted price of the 370 is 18.1, im sure you can get a better price out of them.
@seagrtj can you compare the rage vs the 370? Mechanically.

 

[Baldy/pelon]

Hi matt30577
I'm not sure if They want to take the same quantity of money,starting package with " Rage " a little over $14k and the Prochem legend with starting package is around $20k
But I'm going to ask.

 

[Omar]

Dont forget, you get the sfs class for free.

 

[seagrtj]

The lusted price of the 370 is 18.1, im sure you can get a better price out of them.
@seagrtj can you compare the rage vs the 370? Mechanically.

Mechanically... I'll list the major differences
Rage...
3006 blower
No pump clutch
3 gpm... Good luck with hard surface

370...
4007 blower
Pump clutch
4+ gp
better heat control
There isn't much you can't do with this machine under 250' of house run

I won't lie... Pound for pound... 370 is my favorite machine.... knowing what I know, id but the 370 over any air cooled machine out there.

Don't get me wrong, going from a payable to a TM, the rage is a huge step up. I have many rage customers that are very happy

 

[seagrtj]

Where are you located????

 

[jason wolfington]

can you explain the benefits of having a pump with a clutch?

 

[Omar]

can you explain the benefits of having a pump with a clutch?

Waterjobs, you can turn the pump off and suck water.

 

[seagrtj]

May not seem like a huge deal but a couple years on the business....You learn to appreciate it.... Don't let me street you away.. The rage is a great machine to start with. I'd go that way vs a used machine

 

[jason wolfington]

I assume with a pump clutch, the exhaust must have a diverter also?...or am I missing something.

 

[Omar]

I assume with a pump clutch, the exhaust must have a diverter also?...or am I missing something.

Depends on the machine. I turn my heat ex exhaust off and open my engine exhaust, then suck.

 

[the organic cleaner]

Hi guys I have a company cleaning houses and apartments and have portable but I want to upgrade to TM I have a budget of 18k to buy a TM, live in Oregon the nearest TM dealer is Jon-Don I want to know if SS Rage is strong enough to push 150 feet of hoe's or what other machine do you guys recommend and to clarif I live in Oregon thank you for helping and have a wonderful day

Options are always good to have.
So I'll list some for you.
Rage: $13,250.00 ..... yawn

Saphire 370. $17,500.00
Includes starter package.
100 ft. of 2” Vacuum Hose
100 ft 1/4" Solution Hose
50 ft. of Inlet Water Hose
Carpet Wand (quad jet)
Complete Installation Kit
Operation and Service Manuals

ProChem Legend GT. $17,999.00
100 ft. of 2” Vacuum Hose
100 ft. Of 1/4 Solution Hose
50 ft. of Inlet Water Hose
Carpet Wand (quad jet)
Complete Installation Kit
Operation and Service Manuals
On 60 Gallon Fresh Water Tank
w/100 Gallon Waste Tank.

Judson TNT $16,999.00
100 ft. of 2” Vacuum Hose
100 ft. of 1/4" Solution Hose
50 ft. of Inlet Water Hose
Carpet Wand (quad jet)
Complete Installation Kit
Operation and Service Manuals
W /110 Gallon Waste Tank
Your choice 1,300 psi, #3HTHP or #4 HTHP Little Giant heater.
*You can upgrade to the HTXP 2,200 psi for $500 more.

A quick note all machines can be sold without the starter package: prices vary. Example the Judson can be sold for $13,250 machine only.

 

[seagrtj]

Options are always good to have.
So I'll list some for you.
Rage: $13,250.00 ..... yawn

Saphire 370. $17,500.00
Includes starter package.
100 ft. of 2” Vacuum Hose
100 ft 1/4" Solution Hose
50 ft. of Inlet Water Hose
Carpet Wand (quad jet)
Complete Installation Kit
Operation and Service Manuals

ProChem Legend GT. $17,999.00
100 ft. of 2” Vacuum Hose
100 ft. Of 1/4 Solution Hose
50 ft. of Inlet Water Hose
Carpet Wand (quad jet)
Complete Installation Kit
Operation and Service Manuals
On 60 Gallon Fresh Water Tank
w/100 Gallon Waste Tank.

Judson TNT $16,999.00
100 ft. of 2” Vacuum Hose
100 ft. of 1/4" Solution Hose
50 ft. of Inlet Water Hose
Carpet Wand (quad jet)
Complete Installation Kit
Operation and Service Manuals
W /110 Gallon Waste Tank
Your choice 1,300 psi, #3HTHP or #4 HTHP Little Giant heater.
*You can upgrade to the HTXP 2,200 psi for $500 more.

A quick note all machines can be sold without the starter package: prices vary. Example the Judson can be sold for $13,250 machine only.

Good info.. Not exactly accurate. 370 has 150' of hose... So does legend. Legend isn't on surmount tank unless ordered as such. Forget the starter package... Not worth the argument.. have no experience with a Judson.