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ont be emotional..................just listen and digest.

Do not take a side or join a team mentally while watching.........its tough, but the only way to try to figure out what in the hell is going on........

Watch the dynamic in this interview............

The Democrats have asked the media to not have him on......
2nd Amendment.........that is the antithesis of our Constitution and tyrannical for a government official to even make such a request.

Why are they so afraid of what Rudy has to say.........

Do we need another investigation, what are they hiding??????



Listen to what Rudy is saying................



From just a few hours ago

Compelling interview, but didn't you just say to not trust the media?

It's not possible Rudy is diverting attention?

The president's personal attorney should not be involved in matters of national security.

You say " do not join a team mentally while watching", but I can't help but believe we are only having this conversation because you joined a team mentally years ago.

Now it's about corruption in the Obama administration and of course Fox News is airing it.

Great, bring on the facts. For now, the facts show Trump's personal attorney heading up the rally to compel Ukraine to investigate Biden.

I'm going to post a timeline from factcheck.org. People here will probably call that outlet biased, even though folks on the right loved factcheck.org when they used to call out Obama on things almost daily.

July 25 – Trump calls Ukrainian President Zelensky. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is one of the U.S. officials listening in on the call. In a statement, Ukraine’s office of the president says Trump expressed hope that Ukraine can “complete investigation of corruption cases, which inhibited the interaction between Ukraine and the USA.” The White House does not issue a statement on the call. (Two months later, under pressure from House Democrats, the White House released a memo of the call in which Trump asked Zelensky to open up a corruption investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden, and to look into CrowdStrike, a cybersecurity firm the Democratic National Committee hired after its server was hacked during the 2016 election. CrowdStrike determined that Russia was behind the cyberattack. See the Sept. 25 entry.)

Before Trump calls Zelensky, U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations Kurt Volker tells Andrey Yermak, a Zelensky aide, in a text message: “Heard from White House – assuming President Z convinces trump he will investigate/’get to the bottom of what happened’ in 2016, we will nail down date for visit to Washington.”

July 26 — Volker visits Kyiv and meets with “President Zelenskyy and a variety of Ukrainian political figures” and provides “advice to the Ukrainian leadership about how to ‘navigate’ the demands that the [U.S.] President [Trump] had made of Mr. Zelenskyy,” according to the whistleblower complaint released Sept. 26.

Aug. 2 — Giuliani travels to Madrid to meet with one of Zelensky’s advisers, Andriy Yermak. “The U.S. officials characterized this meeting, which was not reported publicly at the time, as a ‘direct follow-up’ to the President’s call with Mr. Zelenskyy about the ‘cases’ they had discussed,” according to the whistleblower complaint. Giuliani later told the New York Times that he “strongly urged” Yermak to “just investigate the darn things.”

Aug. 10 — In a text message exchange, Volker, the U.S. special envoy to Ukraine, tells Yermak, a Zelensky aide, that they should “iron out statement” for Zelensky to make “and use that to get date” for a White House visit for the Ukrainian president. Yermak responds, “Once we have a date, will call for a press briefing, announcing upcoming visit and outlining vision for the reboot of US-UKRAINE relationship, including among other things Burisma and election meddling in investigations.”

Aug. 12 — A whistleblower files a complaint, addressed to chairmen of the House and Senate intelligence committees, that says: “In the course of my official duties, I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials that the President of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.”

The complaint alleges that Trump in a July 25 phone call pressured Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, and to look into the origins of the U.S. investigation of Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Some White House officials who listened to the call told the whistleblower that they were “deeply disturbed” by the phone call, and were in discussions with White House lawyers “because of the likelihood, in the officials’ retelling, that they had witnessed the President abuse his office for personal gain,” according to the whistleblower complaint. It also lays out a possible “connection” between Trump’s request to investigate the Bidens and the White House’s decision to suspend U.S. security assistance to Ukraine.

Aug. 13 — Volker texts apparent draft language for the Ukrainian statement to U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland. Volker writes: “We intend to initiate and complete a transparent and unbiased investigation of all available facts and episodes, including those involving Burisma and the 2016 U.S. elections, which in turn will prevent the recurrence of this problem in the future.” Sondland responds: “Perfect. Lets send to Andrey after our call.”

Aug. 26Michael Atkinson, the inspector general for the intelligence community, writes to Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire to say that he has reviewed the whistleblower’s complaint and has deemed it an “‘urgent concern’ that ‘appears credible.'” Atkinson informs Maguire that, under the law, he has seven days to forward the complaint to the committee chairmen “together with any comments the Director considers appropriate.”

Aug. 29 — The Defense Department confirms there is a hold on the $250 million in military aid appropriated by Congress, an aide to Sen. Durbin told us.

Sept. 1 — Vice President Mike Pence meets with Ukrainian President Zelensky in Poland during an event marking the 80th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II.

Bill Taylor, the charge d’affaires at the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, writes in a text message exchange involving Volker and U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland: “Are we now saying that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?” Sondland responds: “Call me.”

Sept. 2 — In a press conference, Pence is asked whether he spoke about Biden with Zelensky, and whether the freeze on Ukraine funding had anything to do with “efforts, including by Rudy Giuliani, to try to dig up dirt on the Biden family.” Pence cites the administration’s “great concerns about issues of corruption” in Ukraine and says he “called on [Zelensky] to work with us to engage our European partners to participate at a greater level in Ukraine.” Pence says he did not speak to Zelensky about Biden.

Sept. 3 — A bipartisan group of senators sends a letter to Mulvaney, urging him to release the appropriated aid to Ukraine. “This funding is crucial to the long term stability of Ukraine,” reads the letter from Democratic Sens. Durbin, Jeanne Shaheen and Richard Blumenthal, and Republican Sens. Rob Portman and Ron Johnson.

Sept. 9 — Atkinson, the inspector general of the intelligence community, notifies the House intelligence committee that he received a whistleblower’s complaint relating to an “urgent concern” on Aug. 12. He says he found the information credible, and sent “my determination of a credible urgent concern” along with a copy of the complaint to Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire, who had seven days to forward the complaint to Congress. But, contrary to “past practice,” Maguire did not forward the complaint to Congress, believing “the allegations do not meet the definition of an ‘urgent concern’ under the [whistleblower] statute,” Atkinson writes. The inspector general says he will keep the committee apprised of his attempts to resolve the issue.

Three House committees announce investigations into whether Trump and Giuliani tried to pressure Ukraine into conducting “politically-motivated investigations under the guise of anti-corruption activity.”

In text exchange, Taylor writes: “As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.” Sondland responds: “Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign. I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly.”

Sept. 11 — The administration releases $391 million in security aid to Ukraine, including $250 million Congress had appropriated for the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative for fiscal year 2019 and $141.5 million in security assistance through the State Department.

Sept. 12 — The Senate Committee on Appropriations holds a scheduled hearing in which members consider an amendment to force the administration to release aid to Ukraine. Republican Sen. Lindsay Graham tells Durbin, the author of the amendment, that the administration had released the funds the night before “ecause of your amendment. That’s why it was released because I was going to vote for it. So I think they’ve got the message.”

Durbin agrees to withdraw the amendment, which would have tied the release of fiscal 2020 aid to Ukraine to $5 billion in Defense Department funding, once the committee shows a bipartisan consensus to find another way to make sure the money is spent as appropriated.

Sept. 13 — Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House intelligence committee, issues “a subpoena to the Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire to compel the production of a whistleblower complaint that the Intelligence Community Inspector General’s (IC IG) determined to be credible and a matter of ‘urgent concern,’ as well as the IC IG’s determination and all records pertaining to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence’s (ODNI) involvement in this matter, including any and all correspondence with other Executive Branch actors such as the White House.”

Sept. 18 — The Washington Post, citing unnamed sources, reports that the whistleblower complaint involves Trump’s “communications with a foreign leader,” including “a ‘promise’ that was regarded as so troubling that it prompted an official in the U.S. intelligence community to file a formal whistleblower complaint.”

In a pair of tweets, Trump dismisses the report as “another Fake News story.” He says, “I understand that there may be many people listening from various U.S. agencies, not to mention those from the other country itself. No problem! ….Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially ‘heavily populated’ call.”

Sept. 19 — Atkinson, the inspector general for the intelligence community, meets for several hours behind closed doors with Schiff, the chairman of the House intelligence committee, to discuss the whistleblower complaint.

The House passes a stopgap spending bill that allows the fiscal 2019 Ukraine funding to be spent beyond fiscal 2019, which ends Sept. 30. The Senate later passes the bill on Sept. 26.

The Washington Post reports that a “whistleblower complaint about President Trump made by an intelligence official centers on Ukraine.”

In a CNN interview, Giuliani admits that he asked Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. “The only thing I asked about Joe Biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that Lutsenko, who was appointed, dismissed the case [against Burisma],” Giuliani tells CNN’s Chris Cuomo. “So you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?” Cuomo responds. “Of course I did,” Giuliani says.

Sept. 20 — Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, Trump is asked if he has read the whistleblower report. “[E]verybody has read it and they laugh at it,” Trump says. “And it’s another — it’s another media disaster. The media has lost so much credibility in this country. Our media has become the laughingstock of the world.”

Sept. 21 — The Wall Street Journal, citing anonymous sources, reports that Trump “repeatedly pressured the president of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden’s son,” and urged Zelensky to “work with Rudy Giuliani on a probe that could hamper Mr. Trump’s potential 2020 opponent.”

Sept. 23 — Trump tells reporters, “We’re supporting a country. We want to make sure that country is honest. It’s very important to talk about corruption. If you don’t talk about corruption, why would you give money to a country that you think is corrupt?”

Sept. 24 — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announces that the House will begin an impeachment inquiry. “The President must be held accountable,” she says. “No one is above the law.”

Trump confirms he withheld security aid from Ukraine, saying he did so because he wanted European countries to contribute more to Ukraine. (They contribute more than the United States. See “Trump Wrong on European Aid to Ukraine.”)

Sept. 25 — The White House releases a memo of the call, which confirmed that Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens. The memo isn’t a verbatim transcript, but rather the notes taken by assigned staff.

In the call, Trump complained that the United States is doing “[m]uch more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you.” Trump said “the United States has been very, very good to Ukraine. I wouldn’t say that it’s reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very, very good to Ukraine.”

Zelensky agreed with Trump, saying “the United States is doing quite a lot for Ukraine.” Trump then asked for “a favor,” telling Zelensky he’d like him to look into CrowdStrike, a cybersecurity firm the Democratic National Committee hired after its server was hacked during the 2016 election. CrowdStrike determined that Russia was behind the cyberattack.

“The other thing, there’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great,” the memo says Trump told Zelensky. “Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.” (There is no evidence that Biden “stopped the prosecution” to help his son. See “Trump Twists Facts on Biden and Ukraine.”)

Zelensky responded that he will appoint a new prosecutor who “will look into the situation, specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue.” Trump said he would have Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr call Zelensky.

Sept. 26 — The House intelligence committee releases a redacted copy of the whistleblower complaint, and hears testimony from Maguire, the acting director of national intelligence.

Maguire says the whistleblower acted in “good faith” and “did the right thing.” Democrats on the committee press him on why he did not initially turn over the whistleblower’s complaint. Maguire says it was an “unprecedented” situation, and he was concerned about the possibility of “executive privilege,” so he brought the matter to the attention of the White House and then the Department of Justice. He said he did not initially release the complaint based on the advice of lawyers in the Department of Justice.

In an interview with the Washington Post, Lutsenko says of Hunter Biden: “From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything.” He went on to say that an investigation of Burisma’s owner involved activities that occurred before Biden joined the company’s board. “Hunter Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of Burisma that took place two years before his arrival,” Lutsenko says.

Sept. 27 — Volker, the U.S. special representative for Ukraine negotiations, who is mentioned in the whistleblower complaint, resigns.

Oct. 3 — Trump says that “China should start an investigation into the Bidens,” after telling reporters that Chinese officials would be in Washington to meet the following week. He again says Ukraine “should investigate the Bidens.”

Democrats on the House intelligence, oversight and reform, and foreign affairs committees release several text messages they received from Volker regarding his communications with other U.S. officials, Giuliani and an aide to Zelensky. (See entries for July 25, Aug. 10, Aug. 13, Sept. 1 and Sept. 9.)

Oct. 4 — Ukrainian Prosecutor General Ruslan Ryaboshapka announces he will audit 15 previous investigations, including one involving the owner of Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company for which Hunter Biden served as a board member. “The prosecution service is beyond politics,” he says at a news briefing, according to the New York Times. “We are conducting an audit of all cases, including those which were investigated by the previous leadership of the prosecutor’s office.”
 

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What happens, happens, but people who obviously support Trump no matter what he does are the problem, not guys like me who are open to the truth.

Things get rough, so Rudy heads to Fox News to patch it up... that means nothing until there are facts.

For now... the facts show Trump likely held money to compel an investigation against his opponent.

This is where feeble-minded people start calling me a lib or whatever... I don't care long as I get the truth.
 

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Bidens son
Pelosi's son
Kerry's son
Romney's son

All on energy company boards of directors in Ukraine. Coincidence??
Yes, they are all liars, but there is only one president currently and all the tax breaks and deregulation in the world can't give him the right to break the law if that's what he did.

You say your're apolitical... well look at my timeline I posted and be apolitical about it.

Yes, this is a political witch hunt, it's done with every president when that president give the other team ammo, which it appears Trump may have done.

His own attorney (Rudy or not) was communicating with a foreign government reference corruption at a national security level after Trump clearly asked for a favor? Granted, there was no quid pros quo, but you are smart... millions were held a few days after the call. Texts were made by embassy envoys asking if we were holding the to bolster out position on the investigation.

Yes, it's a political assassination, but Trump gave them this on a silver platter .
 

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Nope dont trust the media, however 90% of that clip was House members speaking, and TELLING THE MEDIA HOW TO DO THEIR JOBS>

So yea good clip

What I said is you have to watch and read from lots of media sources both MSM and small independents and then try to find the truth.................... They all lie.
 
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Cris, still waiting for the cut and paste from the phone call of the quid pros quo.........
Also that aid money you are so worried about.
It got released in late Aug.

Until you can cut and paste a quid pros quo....

Your positions remains empty,
all this talk of punishment is mute
gotta find a crime first before any of the conversation you are having makes any sense.
Its like the tail wagging the dog....a great cartoon or meme but not how real life works.


All this is just a continuation of the Dems not accepting the results of the 2016 election.

And a desperate need to distract and marginalize the pile of crap that is sliding their way.

You paying attention at all to what Barr and Durham are doing?????

next few weeks/months are going to be.....well..............fun to watch.

The boomerang has only just begun.

History dictates, you do not shoot at the king and miss......

They missed, 3x now. Starting with Russia, Russia, Russia.

Now the just and legal retribution will be served on the perpetrators.

History dictates it

Our Republic demands it!
 
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Yes, they are all liars, but there is only one president currently and all the tax breaks and deregulation in the world can't give him the right to break the law if that's what he did.

You say your're apolitical... well look at my timeline I posted and be apolitical about it.

Yes, this is a political witch hunt, it's done with every president when that president give the other team ammo, which it appears Trump may have done.

His own attorney (Rudy or not) was communicating with a foreign government reference corruption at a national security level after Trump clearly asked for a favor? Granted, there was no quid pros quo, but you are smart... millions were held a few days after the call. Texts were made by embassy envoys asking if we were holding the to bolster out position on the investigation.

Yes, it's a political assassination, but Trump gave them this on a silver platter .
Doesn’t matter because all credibility is lost when hypocrisy goes after truth. For every action there is a reaction. Having criminals trying to incriminate others is self defeating. The hypocrisy is feeding the monster and the monster will continue to grow.


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History shows you dont shoot at the king and miss soooo true!!!
 
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History shows you dont shoot at the king and miss soooo true!!!
Spazz made a great analogy. Gonna get interesting next several months.
 

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Push play...the video is preset to the correct spot.

Listen what your President has to say for at least 2 minutes.

This is why he will be the next President.

He is the real deal....

 

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President Trumps reference to former President Eisenhower was in reference to his farewell speech to the nation which included what now is a precinct warning......


"A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

President Dwight D Eisenhower
 

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Where is our friend, Larsox the ''ANGRY'' Liberal ? Been missing for a few weeks. The TDS pills are not working. 5 more years Larsox ... lol

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This mornings blog from Karl Denniger.
Retired internet exec and market and political commentator who has made regular appearances on a nearly every major news network.

Why do they want to impeach Trump so Bad?

What does he have on the "deep state" (administrative state)?

Excellent listen.
Only 10 minutes.

 

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Donald would be the Manchurian candidate if he had more than half a brain but he does appear to take orders well. No Russian meddling, check. No Russian invasion of Crimea, check, no money for Ukraine to buy anti-tank weapons, check. Withdraw from Syria, check, make nice to Kim Jung-un, check. Undermine NATO(sh_t on our allies), check, pull out of Open Skies Tready, check. Now if he could only convince Congress to remove those nasty sanctions that force Vlad’s allies to hide their money in Trump Properties and get the G7 to readmit Russia, he will have fulfilled everything his handler wanted.

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Donald would be the Manchurian candidate if he had more than half a brain but he does appear to take orders well. No Russian meddling, check. No Russian invasion of Crimea, check, no money for Ukraine to buy anti-tank weapons, check. Withdraw from Syria, check, make nice to Kim Jung-un, check. Undermine NATO(sh_t on our allies), check, pull out of Open Skies Tready, check. Now if he could only convince Congress to remove those nasty sanctions that force Vlad’s allies to hide their money in Trump Properties and get the G7 to readmit Russia, he will have fulfilled everything his handler wanted.

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Man, I am sorry.

You need to get your safe space, or a long vaction in the woods planned.

The Dems despite having the house have done nothing. They wont even get the Mexico/canada trade deal ratified. They have let their TDS consume them completely.
And now they are jumping off the bridge with their hair on fire.

Get your head ready.

The Dems are nearly willingly giving up the house with this Impeachment nonsense.

IF you do not like Trump now, what do you think he is gonna be like the next 4 years?????Trump will be unleashed the next 4 years to complete his campaign promisses
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The Democrats are using there one and only shot at impeachment NOW. They will never be able to use it again successfully. IF by some miracle the Dems do hold onto the house.......And even if Trump were to commit High crimes and misdemeanors in his second term all they would be able to do is yell and scream....And thats is NOT good. That is not how our government should be. We need a balance. And I support Trump as you know. This will only serve to accelerate the pendulum swing. As Trump will leverage everything he is given to complete his campaign promises. Remember he has publicly discussed his campaign goals for 20 years now.

Trump will truly be free to flex like a lion domestically and on the world stage.

He will have control of all 3 houses.

The pendulum is swinging the other way now.
Its how history works.
We went way lefty as a society over the last 50 years.
The correction will be significant the other way before the pendulum begins to swing back again towards socialism. The odds are me and you will be dead before the pendulum starts its journey back to the left again.

Again this is history. It nearly always rhymes.

The Globalist agenda is dying.

With Brexit and Trumps reelection it will be sealed.
 
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Larsox the ''ANGRY'' Liberal. The wall is going up. Miles and miles of beautiful wall going up every month. Keeping drugs and bad people from entering our country. You must come to the USA, legally !!!

Thank You President Trump

 
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