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What would be your "go to" for CGD / Commercial type of cleaning?
Unless it’s a greasy spoon restaurant I use an Orbot Vibe or Life machine. Nothing delivers better cleaning results, appearance retention and shear amount sq foot coverage. Encap is king of CGD. HWE is king of residential.

Now if you only want to HWE, a Bonzer, Zipper or If you are referencing a rotary, the RX 20 with glides can’t be beat.
 

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Know what I gathered form this new rabbit hole?? ...that a 2" hose maxes out at 200cfm.

I cant say I know this to be true but this has been revealed as fact by a couple people that are big influencers.

So, too complicate matters further (LOL), does this void all this cfm talk??
Here's a link to a little video by Rob Allen that completely disproves that. I keep hearing the 200 cfm thing but his own video shows a 45 blower machine running at 3350 cfm through 100 ft of 2 inch hose pulling 310 ish cfm . When he sets up the dual 2 inch hose for 50 ft then a 50 foot single 2 inch, it's reaching 450 cfm. That being said, it shows that it is not a "high lift" machine because he shows the lift gauge maxing out at 15HG. Where did all this 200cfm stuff come from? Picture this, you have a 400cfm machine with 12HG lift...or a 50 cfm machine with 35HG lift, which would you chose? It would take several minutes for the high lift machine to do any good and even then, it wouldn't be much good at all. Running water through the blower is not necessarily a bad idea, but you should at least avoid using a carbon steel silencer knowing it is going to get wet from both the blower as well as condensation from the heat exchangers and will definitely rot out.
 

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Here's a link to a little video by Rob Allen that completely disproves that. I keep hearing the 200 cfm thing but his own video shows a 45 blower machine running at 3350 cfm through 100 ft of 2 inch hose pulling 310 ish cfm . When he sets up the dual 2 inch hose for 50 ft then a 50 foot single 2 inch, it's reaching 450 cfm. That being said, it shows that it is not a "high lift" machine because he shows the lift gauge maxing out at 15HG. Where did all this 200cfm stuff come from? Picture this, you have a 400cfm machine with 12HG lift...or a 50 cfm machine with 35HG lift, which would you chose? It would take several minutes for the high lift machine to do any good and even then, it wouldn't be much good at all. Running water through the blower is not necessarily a bad idea, but you should at least avoid using a carbon steel silencer knowing it is going to get wet from both the blower as well as condensation from the heat exchangers and will definitely rot out.
agree on the false narrative of only 200 cfm through a 2" hose.....

If this were true no one would buy anything but a portable with 200 cfm.

Why would TM manufacturers that have been around for 50-60 years make 40-60k$ TM that claim to get 600-700 cfm if they didnt give more vacuum through the hose than a portable.

I bigger engine and a bigger blower always gives more vacuum and better dry times according to rpm's

Where did the 200 cfm limit come from???
GRANDMAS ROAST end cut.....
Why??
cause thats what her mom did
and her mom before her....
and her mom before her......
 
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We rarely do the claw either since using Unchained. Stage 2 and no call backs!
So would you use this like OSR? I usually mix it in a 5 gallon bucket then water claw it. Take's forever to get each spot, would love to have something I could just spray down then extract out as part of a standard cleaning. I use a RX-20 for most urine jobs.
 

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agree on the false narrative of only 200 cfm through a 2" hose.....

If this were true no one would buy anything but a portable with 200 cfm.

Why would TM manufacturers that have been around for 50-60 years make 40-60k$ TM that claim to get 600-700 cfm if they didnt give more vacuum through the hose than a portable.

I bigger engine and a bigger blower always gives more vacuum and better dry times according to rpm's

Where did the 200 cfm limit come from???
GRANDMAS ROAST end cut.....
Why??
cause thats what her mom did
and her mom before her....
and her mom before her......
I got that from Joe Bristor back in the day. Not sure the exact accuracy. I’d like to do some further testing now that I am older and wiser.
 

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Where can YOU get the TMF Starfire & Profire installed/worked on in USA? With over 130+ locations, you can now get them installed at any Hotsy location! This has been the #1 question everyone has asked, our sale we just made will be installed next week at one of their locations. No need for Jondon/Aramsco/Interlink anymore, go to your local Hotsy for this, PLUS TMF will have a West Coast location very soon!
 

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New reels installed! All electric vacuum and solution. Solution reels are all live 3/8’s from machine to reels. Each unit powder coated in red. I’m a wiry 180lbs and about 6’. Plenty of floor space left. Building custom shelves now. What do you think?



 
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New reels installed! All electric vacuum and solution. Solution reels are all live 3/8’s from machine to reels. Each unit powder coated in red. I’m a wiry 180lbs and about 6’. Plenty of floor space left. Building custom shelves now. What do you think?



Looks great. Id love to experience that setup.
 
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A true dual wand set up I see. My caveat would be, its going to be a pain to have two sets of wands etc
 
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Maybe ignorance on my part, I have a high top extended van and like the space and freedom in it, having to put a second set of tools in it would feel cramped !
 
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Maybe ignorance on my part, I have a high top extended van and like the space and freedom in it, having to put a second set of tools in it would feel cramped !
I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the amount of space and creativity I have planned. Actually I’m happy already.
 

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Well if your truck is as good as you say it is I plan on coming out to see it. We are having a huge upsurge in business right now and not nearly as slow as expected or I would've already come out.
 
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New reels installed! All electric vacuum and solution. Solution reels are all live 3/8’s from machine to reels. Each unit powder coated in red. I’m a wiry 180lbs and about 6’. Plenty of floor space left. Building custom shelves now. What do you think?



I’d say 5’10”
 
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I like it rob, it’s what customers love to see.
Agree, it’s part of the “wow” factor. Everywhere I go to get misc items guys who see the truck are blown away. From pressure wash, hardware and hydraulic shops. They all take pics and say they have never seen anything like it. That’s my goal. I want clients to be wowed.
 
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Agree, it’s part of the “wow” factor. Everywhere I go to get misc items guys who see the truck are blown away. From pressure wash, hardware and hydraulic shops. They all take pics and say they have never seen anything like it. That’s my goal. I want clients to be wowed.
WOW
 
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Need to change the green vac hose out on the machine to red;)
 
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We have a killer dual wand setup. We have one set of red vac hose with yellow steam line, and the other wand has blue vac hose with blue steam line. This keeps them straight inside where we are cleaning.

Having a 240,000 BTU LP heater with auto-pilot (coil rated at 6000 PSI), we never have any heat problems with either wand (14 flow total). This also keeps the discharge side of the vac blower free and clear of any OBSTACLES, like heat capturing devices.

Both wands are connected to the same waste tank with 30 GPM APO.

We often run our 15" Zipper SS and an 8 flow wand at the same time to be as efficient as possible, but of course this is depending upon the type of job that we are doing.

Sure the van is packed, but there is room to get up in there when needed.

Speaking of really packed in, we also have an Astro van, with extra leaf springs, which also runs dual wands. This van also has 90 gallons of fresh water, an on-board water softener, 8500 watt continuous Honda genset, the dual wand ETM with 2 high pressure pumps - Cat 290 (dual or single wand), and a PumpTec 207 (single wand), along with the same 240,000 BTU LP heater as we have in our other van, and twin recovery tanks with APO's, carpet repair tools, all chemicals that we use, 2 wands, stair tool, uph tool, etc. The genset draws from the van fuel tank. We also carry cords for using the power at the cleaning job location. Sometimes we run the genset, sometimes we don't, but we do have either option always available depending on where we are cleaning.

I am glad to see Rob offering a true dual wand truckmount as it is a true workhorse!
 
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