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So here's my dilemma I have a match 15 titanium top handle. That I have cut down to my heights and put a wander side handle on it. It is a very comfortable wand the only thing it doesn't have is swivel.

Is there a swivel kit that anyone is aware of?

Is swivel beneficial or do you guys not care for it after all?

Should I just sell my wand and buy something different?
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Just depends on how much you’re willing to invest. Is a swivel necessary? Not really, but it does come in handy at times. Makes life easier in furnished places, but you have to weigh it out in your mind and if it’s worth the extra money to you then go for the swivel. I switched a few years ago and would never go back to a non swivel wand.
 
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To my knowedge, there is no way to modify that wand. I have been using swivels almost ever since they came out. They're particularly useful in tight spaces such as small closets and going around or even under certain furniture. They're not for everyone I'm sure. It does allow you to get into some areas that would be much harder or impossible to do with a standard wand. I keep both a standard wand and a swiveled Bentley in my van and use them both. Here's a job that I was particularly glad I had a swivel. Believe me, it made this job a lot easier on the old body. I'll be doing another church next Monday. I don't use this wand on every single job, but I like having it as well as my old PMF. The swivel made the following job not only a lot easier but faster as well. I did this church alone.

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Btw, some church pews are a lot tighter spaced than these were and are bolted to the floor. Makes it really hard to go all the way under them. I also find the swivel particularly helpful in places with lots of furniture and places that have really cramped bedrooms that you can barely get into.
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Completely agreed with wandwizard. I love my swivel wand in those small tight closets, small rooms with full of furniture..... However I use mine all the time on every job unless if I have decided to use my trex-jr. I would say go for it will make your job easier.
 
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So here's my dilemma I have a match 15 titanium top handle. That I have cut down to my heights and put a wander side handle on it. It is a very comfortable wand the only thing it doesn't have is swivel.

Is there a swivel kit that anyone is aware of?

Is swivel beneficial or do you guys not care for it after all?

Should I just sell my wand and buy something different?View attachment 82373View attachment 82374
If you get a swivel, Mrs. Jones will demand to clean the dustiest corners under her bed.
So, no to a swivel !!!
 
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I love my swivel. Tight stairways, small rooms and osets... endless help. I'd call pmf. I bet they could sell you one. Or Tom Conway from devastator wands. He puts them together from parts.
 
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AZHome&Carpet

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Gotta Swivel like Elvis man! Both the Wand, and the Stair Tool :)
 

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It really comes down to the actual swivel itself....
The design!!
Ease of servicing the swivel to keep it serviceable
If there are failures?
How long will a replacement bearing take to get to me?
How often they are failing?
And why they are failing?
Is the vacuum running through the wand sucking out all the grease promoting early wear?
The bearing replacement, how hard or how easy it is for me to replace or do I have to get a shop with a hydraulic press to do it? Or do I have to send it back to the manufacturer for refurbishment?
How much do the bearings cost to manufacture(effects wand price) and also the effects the cost to buy a replacement bearing outside of warranty.....
So far NOONE has made a swivel bearing wand that can answer these questions....

Dang and Conway and MYTEE all make wands with bearings that need to be replaced

Toms wand has to be sent back to Tom for replacement

Dangs wand-please correct me if I’m wrong or design has changed but if the groove for the drop in bearings wears the plenum is worn as the plenum is the outer race, making it irreparable and requiring a new plenum

MYTEEs bearing on the shaft can be replaced but it’s a major PITA and by the time alloy bearing on the tube has worn, it’s most likely worn into the brass outer race in the plenum and even with new bearing replacement on the shaft, there’s too much wear in the brass plenum sleeve for it to work like new again, so all that effort to half fix is damn annoying
 
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What I dont like is seeing wands that after only a year of use look all rusty and crusted...

I saw a few pics of the new hyped swivel wands that looked like sh!t after less than a year

I dont mess with crusty poop wands or bring them in customers homes
 

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What I dont like is seeing wands that after only a year of use look all rusty and crusted...

I saw a few pics of the new hyped swivel wands that looked like sh!t after less than a year

I dont mess with crusty poop wands or bring them in customers homes
Like everything, if you take care of it it will look good
I always do the "Clean as you Go" model some vans look really nasty inside /out is all about how much you care about the image and presentation some people just do not care
 

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Like everything, if you take care of it it will look good
I always do the "Clean as you Go" model some vans look really nasty inside /out is all about how much you care about the image and presentation some people just do not care
Nice van setup! So clean!! How did u mount ur spinner if u don't mind?
 

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