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To everyone in response regardless of portable sprayers: I have nothing against any means of applying prespray or any other liquids with a hand sprayer. battery operated or electrical sprayers. APO or simple sump pump can push water to a certain height , gpm will vary with increasing height level. I'm thinking, at what pressure is liquid being pushed out at the end of 100' - 150' of battery operated motor if pump is producing between 65-90 psi?
How long will it take to deliver liquid at the tip of spray gun and how much of it will get wasted? If you find answers to those questions and you'll be pleased with outcome, that's what matters the most.
 
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To everyone in response regardless of portable sprayers: I have nothing against any means of applying prespray or any other liquids with a hand sprayer. battery operated or electrical sprayers. APO or simple sump pump can push water to a certain height , gpm will vary with increasing height level. I'm thinking, at what pressure is liquid being pushed out at the end of 100' - 150' of battery operated motor if pump is producing between 65-90 psi?
How long will it take to deliver liquid at the tip of spray gun and how much of it will get wasted? If you find answers to those questions and you'll be pleased with outcome, that's what matters the most.
Same with a solution hose. I know you’re not that cheap lol
 

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I'm trying to understand why you and @ smart n cleen are trying to design a completely new class of battery sprayers. If sprayer is going to be in the van and something goes wrong with it ( and eventually it will, e.g clogged filter) than you have to run back to the van and fix it, instead working on hydro force directly. I see playing with your battery sprayers in summer time, but doing this in winter is just plain ineffective. Your thin plastic line will freeze in matter of seconds sitting on the frozen ground. Same thing can happen to a Neptune , or any solution line if you're not moving quick enough. Don't forget, once warm, hot water starts running trough line, you're golden and worry free. If you think that atomization from your battery operated sprayer will be lesser, it all depends what spray pattern are you using at the tip of spray wand
( hopefully not a mist nozzle). Why not adjust pressure regulator on TM or porty to a desired pressure and proceed with injection sprayer. You'll get right ( or more accurate dilution) . IMO what's important about playin down prespray is a technique. 12"-15" off of the floor and pointing wand straight down, not swinging it like a tennis rocket, will get you satisfactory results.
I would like to see you making some innovative moves, not going back in time.
I don't mean all that in derogatory way, I'm just saying that prevac, prespray, crb-ing or whatever means of getting carpet clean are being used should be one smooth process and playing with a plastic/ vinyl tubing with no flexibility ( not in freezing temps) ain't going to cut it.
I'm not worried about freezing temps, i don't clean in freezing temps, and although i considered running my battery sprayer from the van i probably won't do that as i don't want another long hose to have to manage/ deal with. My new sprayer is on wheels and very easy to move around, i'll just the 20 foot hose i have for it.

I live in north carolina on the coast, right at the north and south carolina boarder. I moved here from Long Island NY like 7 years ago and trust me, the winters here are a joke compared to NY

Electric or battery sprayers are fine, keep your filters clean and most importantly at the end of the day dump any left over chems out, rinse out the tank then put in some fresh warm water only and run the sprayer to flush it out. This most definately helps them last a lot longer.
my new sprayer has a drain at the bottom that screws off making it easy to clean out the tank, my other battery sprayer does not have that feature so ya have to lift it up and turn it upside down

I also keep multiple sprayers on my van so if one craps out and has a problem i just grab another one and keep going and deal with fixing it at the end of the day when i get home.
I don't like to have to be fixing something at the job in front of customer

i also have a few wands on my van to just in case
 

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How fast do you need for upholstery?

I was finding that when cleaning a sectional that the prespray was already starting to dry before I resprayed the whole thing.
 

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Your only risking your lungs if your pre spray with your TM heat on.

Laying it down cold your not misting it in the air unless u have the wrong jet on your hydro force.


The guys with lung problems came from the era of butyl and super toxic detergent rinses....

cleaning stairs face near the carpet with hot steamy butyl chems eating them
 

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Your only risking your lungs if your pre spray with your TM heat on.

Laying it down cold your not misting it in the air unless u have the wrong jet on your hydro force.


The guys with lung problems came from the era of butyl and super toxic detergent rinses....

cleaning stairs face near the carpet with hot steamy butyl chems eating them
point taken, the jets on both my hydro forces are the ones they came with, i've never changed them.
Who intentionally sprays their pre spray cold? Isn't it better to spay it hot
 
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Hydroforce's output pressure is under 200 psi in most cases. Spray from the the furthest point of the room towards the door for the least inhalation. Pro tip for zero overspray on adjacent surfaces, use your wand instead of the gun to lay down your prespray i.e. connect the hydroforce to your wand instead of the spray gun. Very little atomization as well if you are worried about this.
 
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I have never used cold water to prespray with a hydroforce, never. I've wore out the cones on blocks from using heat, but honestly it takes 7 to 10 years to wear one to the point that it pulls chems grossly inaccurate that rebuilding the nozzle won't fix. If you upgrade to 3/8" solution line you will pull more chems through a brand new hydroforce that you can't do with 1/4" solution line. A lot of forces at work on a venturi at distance with flow and pressure.
 

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We mix the solution hot in the hydroforce tank but definitely our little giants are off when pre spraying... otherwise the inside of the home will turn into a steam shower.

Also with two people on the job we spray in and clean out, that way your only moving the solution line once.

We dont use anything so toxic that Im concerned about it, 4:1 tip removed on the hydroforce u can prespray 4-5 rooms pretty fast.