Special Interest - Buyer Beware

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James Cooper

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This is from a customer of Jeff Lydons -his name has been removed at his request :

Please understand this thread is NOT intended to BASH Jeffy Lydon or throw stones at his personal life or his Personal Legal Matters.

However, the public and this board does need to be aware of certain problems that are going on right now concerning business dealings with Jeff concerning Truckmount Direct.

Back on August 12, 2009. I pmed Jeff Lydon about purchasing a GreenHorn wand, some new 2.5 inch hose, about 7 total sets of coolcuffs and an adaptor for our waste tank to accept 2.5 hose. He gave me prices and we even negotiated a discount for the relatively large order and on August 19th I placed the order, giving him a CC#. I PMed on August 22 simply curious about how long he thought it would take to get the shipment out.

On September 4th I recieved an email from his Truckmount direct email stating

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Your stuff will ship on monday. I just haven't got the shipping quote yet. Usually a 14" wand is about $45, and a box of 2" hose is about $28 all the small **** usually fits in one of teh big boxes so it nominal.

I have a deadline of today to get this paper out, hang with me.


I patiently awaited for the shipment to arrive.

On September 7th I recieved an email from Pay Pal asking for a payment on my order that I thought I had given a CC# on already. Emailed Jeff and he had me enter it through a PayPal donation site. (thought it was kinda of hokey to have a donation site instead a pay site. But hey no problems as long as I get my stuff.) I couldn't enter the number until the 9th when I got a hold of Jeff on the phone to figure out the email/website payment site.

Later on September 9th, I go an email from Paypal, stating a possible delay in shipment because of taking two days to review the transaction. Still feeling postive about the purchase at this point.

on September 18, I sent an email to Jeff asking about shipping tracking number or where the products were I asked about. I understood there is a whim of a possiblilty that cheap freight could take 10 days to get from California to Illinois. But I was beginging to get concerned.

on September 19, I recieved a reply stating he thought he sent an email with shipping and that the wand would be there on Monday, September 21, 2009.. Ok I thought 12 days shipping, not the best but hey I'll get me stuff and I'll be able to finish the large account I purchased the extra hose for. Supposedly Jeff ran out of glides while making so many greehorns that he had Lisa dropship her last one to me asap. It arrived before the wand and was sent on 9/16/2009.

Well September 21 came and the wand arrived.. but no hoses. Also we had agreed on 03 jets for the greenhorn and he put 02's on. Ok I can live with the 02's and will them them out. Now I do have to say that I'm live with the greenhorn from the very first job I used it on. It saved me atleast 2 hours the first day just from having a larger wand size and the flushing ability was great. I can deal with the 02's just fine. But still I was starting to get Mad as no hoses or cuffs were sent and I was starting to be put behind the 8 ball on this reatlivey big job I had to finish up. Its a continuing account and will bring in our company $20K plus over the next year or two if they continue to be happy with our results.

Well I have not heard back from Jeff since his last email on the September 19th, I've emailed him repeatedly simply asking for product ship dates or arrival dates and have pmed on %!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**!%!*@%%**! as well, and I've called him a few times with no answer on his phone.

Finally yesterday I decided to ask Mikey if he knew of Greenie's whereabouts and possible issues.

The responce I felt like someone pulled a chair out from underneath me.

At this point in time, Greenie is flat broke and his shelves are empty. I don't know the further details of his business financial trouble or personal issues.

However, I do know that I paid him in full $1400.00 and expected delivery in good faith of said products. Its now been over 5 weeks since I placed the order and gave him a form of payment. and 3 weeks since I made the payment in full.

I have only recieved the Wand but still have not recieved or heard mention of the other half of the order from Jeff nor have I recieved a responce to any of the several emails I have sent nicely asking for some update.

Now MikeyP and Lisa have stepped in and supposedly Lisa is having him ship the rest of my order today. My respect for these two could not be any higher, and I'm very appreciative for them stepping in and helping out in this situation turned sour.

I've supported Greenglides, and I've supported Jeff and his ideas and theories on high flow and cleaning results and embraced his performance enhancements, I've only talked favorably about his product, and when Jeff and Lisa split and Jeff started Truckmount direct, I did my best to referr business to him and still to GG. Because of my blind support of Jeff and his products, I feel even more frustated over the this difficult situation.

Jeffy Lydon needs to get his business in order before he makes commitment to any more buyers. I can only hope that he was NOT planning on defuncting on the rest of the order. I'm not one to share personal emails but my busines emails serve as records of transactions and business meetings and I feel sharing a portion of an email I sent to Jeff would illstrate how more so offended I am about this predicament.

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I still have a warehouse of products, reputation, new projects, customers, distributors etc.... really it's nothign in the big picture....and THAT is what is pissing HRI and their lawyers off....see, I don't own a house, or have any "assets" on paper


If Greenie truly is broke and has no inventory, then this was a flat out lie. And as far as his reputation goes. He better think long and hard about his business practices.

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Nick N

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Here are the facts. The man and his friend bashed Ken Harris fo not delivering on time . This is like the seventh time this has happened. Hell several guys in the UK never even got there stuff.. the fact that he is having money sent thru Pay Pal as a donation is a absolute fraud and criminal.

Les Jones has stepped up to correct it . That is awesome. The fact he did it is just wrong.

The fact that Greenie used to tell people don't pay for anything unless you get it in advance and not the fact that he has to ship after getting the money.

I have no problem with any supplier having to get money up front . The fact that Greenie set his standard . He should abide by it.

The FACT that Greenie says he has a warehouse full of stuff and the fact that he intentionaly hid it from Harris Research is criminal.
 

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Hey James, if you have your bible turn to Jeremiah 17:5


should we the cleaners, buyers, supporters be surprised with the lies, actions and shady business dealings of some within this industry....imagine that. Heck you have some that talk nice but get hoping mad at you cause you don't post on their behave, tis tis.....then you have those that sell goods and act as if they hold your business life line within their grip, lol

To go further, there are some well known industry experts that teach you skills then turn around and sell the same to the general public (there goes the money on the table).......and that is a FACT JACK.
It's only a matter of time before the the other half receives a spank'n.
But don't get mad at me again, you already know this........

But I am curious Copper, did you not observe the dealings of GG and how it was they rose to the top? Did not Joe Smoe inform you long ago.




I can't help myself to think this all is like the story within the bible.....You build your house (business) upon the sands, it eventually will not stand when the winds and the storm come blowing through.....
But if your like the man that built his home (business) upon the ROCK, NOTHING will move it though the storms, the winds and the rain trys to beat it down...in the end the house (business) built upon the ROCK will out last the slickers, cheaters, hustlers, liars and users.



cheers.
 

Nick N

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Actually my spelling can be quite good. Its typing and not proof reading. Hye U can still abck the crimminal if you want.

THE fact that Greenies truckmount direct is hiding stuff from a federal judge. The Fact that he got paid in full and did not complete the shipment sham shame. Greenies truckmount direct cannot be trusted. BY the the way on a side note.


Is there still a WARRANT for greenies Jeff Lydon arrest for not showing up to court?
 

Nick N

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SO what you have is a guy on borrowed time. When some one buys some products from him. Say they spend 600.00 and he gets picked up for not using a turning signal. Jeff Lydon greenies truckmount direct then goes to jail and gets booked. Then he gets extradited to UTah. SO people buying his products may not get them or be waiting a long time. Boy that would suck. Buyer be ware.
 

Art Kelley

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Hey Coop, if you want to really draw attention to your Greenie bashing post (which you didn't write but took from someone posting on the **********) you should put Jeff's name on the header, and also Lisa's and use their company names for good measure. Then maybe you can get 11000 views. Nothing like a good kick on someone when they're down eh? It would be interesting to read Ken Harris's opinion about poor service and slow delivery and ignoring E-Mails after receiving customer payments.
 

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Hey James just a little curious where you are located? Your information shows Georgia, yet you have a Bloomington Illinois business? You also stated the following:

understood there is a whim of a possiblilty that cheap freight could take 10 days to get from California to Illinois.

Are you in Illinois? If so why not change your profile, or am I missing something?
 
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Yes he would be tanfered to another state. Art, Its too bad you picked a guy to back that just could not follow thru. Why dont you send him 10,000.00 and help him out.


Nick is correct. When Jeff is arrested on this bench warrant, he is to be transfered back to Utah to face trial there. There is no bail.
 
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