Soap Daddy Who Has Used It?

[Jim Davisson]

I thought lye based products and aluminum recovery tanks are not good drinking buddies....

 

[1ST CHOICE CLEANING]

Here is the situation. I do not live in an area that I can charge as much as many others do, I would guess our prices across the board is probably 30% lower than what the average is throughout the U.S. We do high quality work and have more than double the amount of 5 star reviews as anyone else in our area and have the largest Facebook following with over 4,000 but we can only get away with charging what the market will allow us to.
With that being said if we are buying the same products both chemicals and equipment our profit is going to be 30% lower (give or take) and I need to come up with ways to increase profit without sacrificing quality. If this makes me a "price shopper carpet cleaner" that is worried about how much things cost than so be it but I need to look out for my business and family. My 20 year old son works with me and I am not a 1 man show working for beer money.
Yes there is very little talk about other chemical lines on here but I am looking for information and I asked knowing how it would turn out but hoping someone would buck the trend and give their results. I know many members use other products but they don't post about it so if anyone can help send me a PM.

 

[bcs]

Jason i totally understand where your coming from and its sad that this forum has become monopolised to such an extent that you get criticised for asking about products that are not tmf branded.This forum use to be open to all suggestions/recommendations/preferences from carpet cleaners who use many types/brands based on their own experience in the field.I have never tried Soap daddy products but have been using Bridgepoint products for a few years now and get great results,and yes i have tried tmf products however Bridgepoint are cheaper and achieve same results.You guys think your paying alot try paying around $90 - $100 a 6.5lb tub of biopro or secret formula by the time it freights to New Zealand

 

[1ST CHOICE CLEANING]

Jason i totally understand where your coming from and its sad that this forum has become monopolised to such an extent that you get criticised for asking about products that are not tmf branded.This forum use to be open to all suggestions/recommendations/preferences from carpet cleaners who use many types/brands based on their own experience in the field.I have never tried Soap daddy products but have been using Bridgepoint products for a few years now and get great results,and yes i have tried tmf products however Bridgepoint are cheaper and achieve same results.You guys think your paying alot try paying around $90 - $100 a 6.5lb tub of biopro or secret formula by the time it freights to New Zealand

Looks like we both joined the forum within weeks of each other so we both know how the forum used to be compared to now. I have used a bunch of products from Bridgepoint over the years and like how they work but I refuse to go to our local store because the almost never have what I went for month after month so I had to order everything. I do not mind ordering online but once you start going that route your options open up a lot more and there are many places to chose from.

 

[Art Kelley]

Soap Daddy makes my favorite pet stain and odor treatment with their P-Sor. At 6-8 oz per gallon dilution and costing $32/gal it is an economical and very effective enzyme product with a subtle, fresh fragrance that eliminates urine odors. I love it.

 

[Luky]

Here is the situation. I do not live in an area that I can charge as much as many others do, I would guess our prices across the board is probably 30% lower than what the average is throughout the U.S. We do high quality work and have more than double the amount of 5 star reviews as anyone else in our area and have the largest Facebook following with over 4,000 but we can only get away with charging what the market will allow us to.
With that being said if we are buying the same products both chemicals and equipment our profit is going to be 30% lower (give or take) and I need to come up with ways to increase profit without sacrificing quality. If this makes me a "price shopper carpet cleaner" that is worried about how much things cost than so be it but I need to look out for my business and family. My 20 year old son works with me and I am not a 1 man show working for beer money.
Yes there is very little talk about other chemical lines on here but I am looking for information and I asked knowing how it would turn out but hoping someone would buck the trend and give their results. I know many members use other products but they don't post about it so if anyone can help send me a PM.

I remember you talking about prices and market a while ago. I think that some of us, e.g. Chicagoland cleaners, don't have to put as much effort ( provided that we can show same great results) to acquire new customers and hold on to them despite the fact that area is saturated with carpet cleaning companies. Still, you can be picky if you can choose from almost 10 million people living in 50-60 miles radius. Having said that I have so much more respect for you .
I'll respect your wish not to mention other than Soap daddy products, but I spend $109 three times a year for 45 lbs. pail and I'm happy with that. I'll order some of Soap daddy's products and let you know. This topic caught my attention a year ago, but @jtsunbrite opinion threw me off,( he wasn't happy with results, allegedly product was leaving sticky residue).
Who knows, maybe Soap daddy products evolved into better quality since...

 

[Joe cool]

I will put Prochem up against them all day long and win .

 

[TWalters]

I've used several soap daddy products. The OSR +, I do like. It is a bit cheaper than TMF's Pure O2, so I use it. I don't use it very often though. Grout Daddy was a major let down for me. I have only ever used Groutmaster. I was out of it and had a lot of grout daddy, so I attempted to use it, and it failed miserably compared to what Groutmaster does. I went home, ordered more, and went back when the shipment arrived and fixed it. The p-sor is a really good pet stain and odor treatment. It is not as good at odor removal as Unchained, but the stain treatment is probably equal in my opinion. Primetime Enzyme worked decent, but I expected the scent to be better. I personally chose to stick with TMF, Bridgepoint Presprays, and rinse agents, as I know they are consistent, and I have never been disappointed. I don't mind spending a little extra per house to know that when I am cleaning, it's the best cleaning I can do. But when it comes to OSR +, P-Sor, I don't mind using Soap Daddy. Just my personal experience with it.

 

[rob allen]

I've used several soap daddy products. The OSR +, I do like. It is a bit cheaper than TMF's Pure O2, so I use it. I don't use it very often though. Grout Daddy was a major let down for me. I have only ever used Groutmaster. I was out of it and had a lot of grout daddy, so I attempted to use it, and it failed miserably compared to what Groutmaster does. I went home, ordered more, and went back when the shipment arrived and fixed it. The p-sor is a really good pet stain and odor treatment. It is not as good at odor removal as Unchained, but the stain treatment is probably equal in my opinion. Primetime Enzyme worked decent, but I expected the scent to be better. I personally chose to stick with TMF, Bridgepoint Presprays, and rinse agents, as I know they are consistent, and I have never been disappointed. I don't mind spending a little extra per house to know that when I am cleaning, it's the best cleaning I can do. But when it comes to OSR +, P-Sor, I don't mind using Soap Daddy. Just my personal experience with it.

Thanks for the honest appraisal. Couple things that made us go in the other direction vs other formulators. In Unchained we opt with safer essentials vs harmful but inexpensive phthalates and other syns. So naturally raws cost a bit more like organic foods but considerably safer.

With our Pure02 it has a little less oxidizing to allow room for citrus solve. The citrus has a three fold purpose. One, to cut through oils for dog dander odor. Two, offers a cleaning boost. Three, cuts through the urine molecule to allow the oxidizer to break down odors. All this while still retaining plenty oxidizer to deodorize, brighten and kill odors.

Just for record we have an Unchained Pure02 and Cherry Bomb one coming. As a matter of fact I have some samples made. It has double the amount oxidizers than other brands who use additives and fillers unbeknownst to cleaners. Those who have tried it were shocked compared to their current brands.

 

[rob allen]

To address the other naysayer comments further above it’s amazing the rationality displayed. To sum it up, and all you cleaners should know, cheaper is not usually better and it’s never safer. We all think it’s dumb of clients to use cheap Rug Dr’s with their watered down low quality toxic brews. But then some cleaners turn around and use low quality dangerous products because it's cheap. This jeopardizes their clients, degrades clients carpets and opens their business to liabilities. And then they can’t figure out why they or their business's don’t get anywhere in life. For every action there is a reaction.

 

[rob allen]

I always get a kick out of buying raws from chemical suppliers. They say "hey look we got on sale "so & so" it's a steal of deal". Or "look at this deal on a competing surfactant from out of country". Or " this is what all your competitors use it's so profitable". I say "what ever everyone else uses I don't want. Show me the most expensive, highest quality and safest stuff you got". They think I'm crazy. I am. Crazy, like a fox.

 

[1ST CHOICE CLEANING]

This is where I bite my tongue and let Rob do what he does. I am going to close this thread as it got off track but I did have some members PM me with some information and I thank them.
Have a good day Rob and may your sales exceed all your expectations.

 

[rob allen]

Some of you guys with the little backend gossip networks think you have it all figured out. I've given back to cleaners 10's of 1000's of dollars in donations, websites or chemical gifts (to many in this thread), free logos and websites, created this free million post forum, donated to your charities, sent equipment and tools for those who endured fires/divorces/natural disasters, 100's of free Youtube videos, a large Facebook group and take your calls on a drop of the hat to help. Yet the largest industry school has almost 10 million dollars in the bank, gives nothing back, charges y'all each year for what they already taught you, paid their children 6 figure so called "research jobs" with your school money.

Not to mention there are also gurus/mentors charging from 500-1000 month, large suppliers and distributors never spent time in trenches while giving nothing back. Also chemical companies that have zero to do with our industry except to hock chemicals and y'all spend your time hassling me, a fellow cleaner trying make a difference, over a few quarters per job? Talk about straining out the gnat while gulping down the camel.