SO IF THE CHINESE VIRUS IS SO FATAL

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Being it was not tried in the opposite way of remaining open and working. There is nothing saying that it would be completely behind us right now. Can only speculate.


The flu too yes like Corona can lead into pneumonia which can but not always leave you with lung damage. And yes if severe you will need to be placed on ventilator.
And im willing to bet if and when they come out with this vaccine. It will be similar in results as the flu shot. Hit or miss.
I've had the flu countless times and never have had a flu shot. I've also had the common cold countless times

Not once did I ever end up on a ventilator or with pneumonia.
 
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No John there is NOT a vaccine for the flu

You have to go get it every year.

And then the success is marginal at best

Stop you BS


I don't think that is correct. There are many different types of flus. The flu shots they give you are for the flu strain or strains they anticipate will become a problem here. Often times they.re not the correct. So you get a flu shot for a strain that you didn't contract.
 

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1. Influenza is not a Corona virus Spazz

2 flu vaccines like Johnny said are for the specific strain and they are proven effective, the strains mutate and then you need a different vaccine to be protected.


It sounds like you buy into the vaccine conspiracies. How many people would you estimate are behind this? Just curious.
 

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No John there is NOT a vaccine for the flu

You have to go get it every year.

And then the success is marginal at best

Stop you BS
You are either trying to get brownie points for the BS you put out there or you are extremely ignorant.
No Vaccine for the flu boy are you living in the stone age. I guess then all the recipients that get the flu shot and don't get sick are marginal at best. You still haven't answered my initial questions directed to you yesterday.
 
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You are either trying to get brownie points for the BS you put out there or you are extremely ignorant.
No Vaccine for the flu boy are you living in the stone age. I guess then all the recipients that get the flu shot and don't get sick are marginal at best. You still haven't answered my initial questions directed to you yesterday.

From the dictionary

Vaccine

a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

YOu can not have immunity if 60,000 people die every year of flu.............



Enough BS John. I am holding your feet to the fire.

We have a few vaccines, but there are 0 effective vaccines against the common cold AND coronaviruses in particular.
0 long term vaccines ever produced in the nearly 100 years we have known about coronavirus


Tell me again about the vaccine.

Will be waiting


Stop you BS

Plus you do realize, vaccine is simply unnatural HERD IMMUNITY.

But my guess is you have not figured that out yet

With no lockdowns this would all be over by now. Herd immunity would have been reached. The number of deaths the same, we only simply spread out the deaths and extended the lockdowns and economic destruction unnecessarily.

0 lives have been saved or will be saved by mask or social distancing or lockdowns.

This all ends with herd immunity. Which we are nearing in many parts of the country or after the election. Whichever comes first

Full stop
 
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From the dictionary

Vaccine

a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

YOu can not have immunity if 60,000 people die every year of flu.............



Enough BS John. I am holding your feet to the fire.

We have a few vaccines, but there are 0 effective vaccines against the common cold AND coronaviruses in particular.
0 long term vaccines ever produced in the nearly 100 years we have known about coronavirus


Tell me again about the vaccine.

Will be waiting


Stop you BS

Plus you do realize, vaccine is simply unnatural HERD IMMUNITY.

But my guess is you have not figured that out yet

With no lockdowns this would all be over by now. Herd immunity would have been reached. The number of deaths the same, we only simply spread out the deaths and extended the lockdowns and economic destruction unnecessarily.

0 lives have been saved or will be saved by mask or social distancing or lockdowns.

This all ends with herd immunity. Which we are nearing in many parts of the country or after the election. Whichever comes first

Full stop
Boy, you have proven my point. I feel so sorry for you. I can't believe in this day and time that someone of your knowledge is flaunting IGNORANCE in such a manner. You realize that I am not the only one that is reading your ignorant ramblings. A stupid one should never display their stupidity on a public forum. Stick to carpet cleaning you may survive.
 

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Boy, you have proven my point. I feel so sorry for you. I can't believe in this day and time that someone of your knowledge is flaunting IGNORANCE in such a manner. You realize that I am not the only one that is reading your ignorant ramblings. A stupid one should never display their stupidity on a public forum. Stick to carpet cleaning you may survive.
My god you're a condescending prick
 

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Profile says your from oregon @John Rockwood guess its a geographical thing or maybe its a "im a keyboard badass" thing.....but where im from you call someone "boy", "ignorant", "stupid"like that while standing in front of them your more than likely gonna get your little b i t c h ass beat to a bloody pulp just saying
 

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Profile says your from oregon @John Rockwood guess its a geographical thing or maybe its a "im a keyboard badass" thing.....but where im from you call someone "boy", "ignorant", "stupid"like that while standing in front of them your more than likely gonna get your little b i t c h ass beat to a bloody pulp just saying
I did not call him "boy" it was just starting a sentence. He attacked me if you go back and read his post on me. His flagrant disrespect, posts that make no sense along with his ramblings caused his own ignorance to be on full display. Anyone that believes what he is pushing is stupid. I ask you, how then do you explain his ramblings? I just call it like I see it. Seems like you are trying to defend him and are we back in middle school now with the threats?
 

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I did not call him "boy" it was just starting a sentence. He attacked me if you go back and read his post on me. His flagrant disrespect, posts that make no sense along with his ramblings caused his own ignorance to be on full display. Anyone that believes what he is pushing is stupid. I ask you, how then do you explain his ramblings? I just call it like I see it. Seems like you are trying to defend him and are we back in middle school now with the threats?
Kinda looks like ya did, then the rest of your post was how stupid and ignorant he is....and ya i was defending him @Spazznout is anything but stupid and ignorant but he disagrees with you so that makes him stupid and ignorant right? Lol, wasnt a threat at all i was just telling you how your disrespectful mouth would have an adverse affect if you were standing in front of the wrong person and not on a keyboard....more of a friendly heads up in case you ever were to speak to someone like that in person.

Nope, just have your facts together if you are going to attack me for calling you out with such nonsense.
If it isnt you saying it its an "attack" , if it isnt you saying it the other person is ignorant and stupid, your a typical liberal....hows things going in portland? Good times right?
 
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I continue to work as well. But I wear a mask and take commons sense precautions. I don't take stupid risks, and brag about it.
I do wear one. But only enter stores and such. While working mask is off. I would pass out if i had to wear it all day. Way too much crap to carry around with running up and down steps. Most important thing to me is washing hands. And i do do that quite often. Alcohol for when i leave stores before touching my steering wheel or anything else.
 

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I do wear one. But only enter stores and such. While working mask is off. I would pass out if i had to wear it all day. Way too much crap to carry around with running up and down steps. Most important thing to me is washing hands. And i do do that quite often. Alcohol for when i leave stores before touching my steering wheel or anything else.
Pretty much same here. I just throw it on before walking in a store or when talking to the customer doing the walk through.

Once they leave during job most of the time I take it off, sometimes I just forget since I'm getting used to it. I can't stand the fabric masks or n95.. Costco has the blue surgical ones and they aren't bad don't really restrict your breathing.

It is only 70/80f at most here... some of these guys I see in the FB groups out cleaning in 115 lol... no thanks, I wouldn't do with with or without a mask
 

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Kinda looks like ya did, then the rest of your post was how stupid and ignorant he is....and ya i was defending him @Spazznout is anything but stupid and ignorant but he disagrees with you so that makes him stupid and ignorant right? Lol, wasnt a threat at all i was just telling you how your disrespectful mouth would have an adverse affect if you were standing in front of the wrong person and not on a keyboard....more of a friendly heads up in case you ever were to speak to someone like that in person.


If it isnt you saying it its an "attack" , if it isnt you saying it the other person is ignorant and stupid, your a typical liberal....hows things going in portland? Good times right?
Sorry to disappoint you, I am not a liberal. Portland's mayor is a wuss with no backbone. I tend not to associate with people on that level. I am just defending myself with facts not using insults, innuendos and BS. People are judged by their actions (physical or intellectual).
 

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Pretty much same here. I just throw it on before walking in a store or when talking to the customer doing the walk through.

Once they leave during job most of the time I take it off, sometimes I just forget since I'm getting used to it. I can't stand the fabric masks or n95.. Costco has the blue surgical ones and they aren't bad don't really restrict your breathing.

It is only 70/80f at most here... some of these guys I see in the FB groups out cleaning in 115 lol... no thanks, I wouldn't do with with or without a mask
We have been in 100 range with high humidity. It sucks lol. Rains came yesterday dropping temps but humidity is still bad. I only clean part time now. Just a few customers that i kept. Cleaning well during the actual cleaning i could wear one and work. As long as ac was kicking. But running in and out I'd have to take it off during that part. I mostly install flooring. Up steps with pad, down steps with trash, up steps with tools, down steps with trash, up steps with new carpet... over and over. Then to the actual work of installing. After 10 minutes the mask is soaked. I even tried the valved masks. They work ok but still condensate if doing any heavy lifting or running up steps. I just keep one around my neck ready to use if need be. Otherwise I'd forget it lol.
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Boy, you have proven my point. I feel so sorry for you. I can't believe in this day and time that someone of your knowledge is flaunting IGNORANCE in such a manner. You realize that I am not the only one that is reading your ignorant ramblings. A stupid one should never display their stupidity on a public forum. Stick to carpet cleaning you may survive.
So then we agree,

You have no clue what you are talking about.
When your assumptions and beliefs are challenged with facts you are left with calling people names and trying to put them down. Its a tactic used by folks who know they are wrong and have no facts to stand behind. They are left holding their limp dick realizing their "reality" is but a construct that the media wrote for them.

You and your mind are a slave.


The bus to take you to get your vaccine and free meal will be along shortly.

Have a great day!