Restaurants made easy with encap

sprkln

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I know Matt, I hear those concerns all the time with this encap stuff. Now the shocker...the carpets in the restaurant looks better 24 hours later!

As far as resoiling, to say that the encap will last longer than HWE is hard to judge. In these restaurants they get filthy so quickly either way. I have several restaurants like this that I got because owners were unhappy with previous cleaners (HWE - probably the cleaners were the problem, not the method) they have kept me on the same 4-6 wk schedule that they have always had. They are all very satisfied customers with my cleaning.

Please Note: using encap on compacted grease areas does not work well. If you can see the grease rising as a solid out of the carpet, encap will have a hard time. You will be able to break down the grease, but you will make a big mess that the bonnets just can't completely clean up. In those areas extraction is still the best.


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What is Detonator and what does it do?
Detonator is Vacaways Hydrogen Peroxide booster. When added to your solution most organic spots will simply disappear during cleaning. It also does an excellent job of neutralizing odors. Another benefit is a noticeable "brightening" of the carpet as it dries, particularly on lighter colored carpets.
 

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hey im lookin for a oreck oribter is there a xl oreck or does it matter
the commercial orbiter has a bigger motor than the residential one and I assume maybe a longer cord. If you were buying new I would say get the commercial one. If you are buying used for $150 than who cares right?

I use and orbiter for stairs, it works very well.
 

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Personally, i think if u start heavy then touch up. Youll be ok
 

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Restaurants grease has been a problem for encap since the beginning as most encappers can attest. For me, my results were always "just ok" when it came to encapping restaurants. It was frustrating to get the "wow" effect in most other commercial accounts only to be underwhelmed in a grease spoon. As a result I went on a search and tried many different things to get better results.

My breakthrough was to do a 1. light pre spray with a carpet degreaser. 2. Hot knife (double strength) with the Cimex. 3. Pad cap with my Orbot and Tuways. - my results improved drastically....however....I did not like the idea of using a non encap pre spray to cut the grease. I hoped that the Hot Knife would also encapsulate the pre spray but I was never certain.

I ordered more Hot Knife Extreme from Vacaway and also some Detonator. With my order came a sample of their new Grease Hog - a high PH encap pre spray designed specifically for grease. I used it last night on a very greasy Japanese steakhouse and here is what I found:

First I mixed my pre spray 4 oz per gallon Grease Hog and spiked it with 5 oz per gallon Detonator. In my Cimex I used 4 oz per gallon HKE and spiked it with 5 oz per gallon Detonator. Here are a couple shots: View attachment 31041 View attachment 31042

I found out that the Grease Hog cut the grease as good if not better than the carpet degreaser I had been using. As a test, I put the pre spray in my Orbot and scrubbed it in with a fiber pad. That in itself cleaned up the carpet drastically. In fact when I followed with the Cimex and Hot knife I made further small improvements on the carpet, but it was clear Grease Hawg had done most of the work.

As far as the Detonator (a peroxide based cleaner) I'm not sure if it helped me much on this job. I was fighting a film of grease, not many food stains. It may have given a boost to both the Grease Hog and HKE but not really sure. And not sure if in this situation it justified the extra chemical cost.

Then I ran out of the sample Pre spray and decided to do the final section with just the Cimex and Hot Knife Extreme, this time double strength:
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It came out well...but not as good as first pre spraying with Grease Hawg.

Here is what I know: I have an all encap system that will work very well on greasy restaurants with the new Grease Hawg being the key. More testing to come.


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Great info thanks !! What was the sq, ft, and how much did you charge?? Again THANKS !!!
 

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Great info thanks !! What was the sq, ft, and how much did you charge?? Again THANKS !!!
I do this restaurant roughly every 4 weeks. It is probably around 2000 sq ft. I do it by myself and it takes 3 hrs. I charge $350.

I have since refined my process to speed things up.

1. Vacuum
2. Scrub using the Cimex and fiber max pads (4 oz grease Hog, 5 oz Detonator per gallon)
3. Pad using the Orbot and Tuways. (No extra chemical used in Orbot)

Results have been great! Give it a try.
 

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I do this restaurant roughly every 4 weeks. It is probably around 2000 sq ft. I do it by myself and it takes 3 hrs. I charge $350.

I have since refined my process to speed things up.

1. Vacuum
2. Scrub using the Cimex and fiber max pads (4 oz grease Hog, 5 oz Detonator per gallon)
3. Pad using the Orbot and Tuways. (No extra chemical used in Orbot)

Results have been great! Give it a try.
Which tuway bonnets do you use?
 

ebarnett

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Are they the only bonnets you use? Do you like them? They are the bonnets that I use. But a lot of people claim they are not so good. What's funny is I like the thin ones over the speed treks.
No they are not the only bonnet I use. But they are a cheap choice for these type of jobs. Restaurant grease is nasty. I don't like using my better bonnets on this type of job, as they are the ones I would take into a residence. The Tuways are sufficient, but others are correct, they are inferior to many other more expensive bonnets.
 

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No they are not the only bonnet I use. But they are a cheap choice for these type of jobs. Restaurant grease is nasty. I don't like using my better bonnets on this type of job, as they are the ones I would take into a residence. The Tuways are sufficient, but others are correct, they are inferior to many other more expensive bonnets.
What is your bonnet of choice?
 

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Awesome video w the Trinity. What chemicals or combination of chemicals, and what kind of bonnet did you use?