Prespray & Protector test
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LOL. I've used probably 15 different presprays over the years and while a couple of them were no good most of them cleaned the carpet just fine.
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I don't think we found out about the nasty poly carpet either, probably will be a big announcement any day now
Oddly enough I've tried two pre-sprays extensively, and those were chemspec TLC and Harvard's Grime Release. Both worked great. Chemspec got too high and my supplier quit carrying them bc chemspec started charging higher shipping unless they ordered so many lbs. So I choose the other. I have tried more presprays but not as much as those two. With these two it has been 5 plus years.
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Lol I'm all ears now. I've still never had that much trouble with polys, but it's always fun to hear chem talk
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Chemspec and TLC and Harvard GRP are both knockoffs of the original Prochem UltraPak. They are not bad copies but Prochem has the edge. I have an interesting picture that I think you would really like Cam. Remind me and when I get to the office I will take a pic in the morning.
Yeah I'd love to see the pic, whatever it may be. For me since everything is so similar, I guess it comes down to bottom dollar. I pay 16 dollars for grime release. I'd love to see cheaper chem prices instead of newer chems that do the same thing. And I know my supplier is still making money when he sells it for 16. However, I don't doubt other chems work.
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16 is dirt cheap. So you get 4 inline sprayers out of a gallon @ 4.00 each. Not a bad value.
As far as a powder lets take Pro10k at 35 a container. 8-10oz per inline sprayer makes 10-12 inline sprayers. Thats 2.90-4.00 per inline sprayer.
So basically theres not much of a difference in pricing unless someone is shipping. Shipping water is expensive.
Yeah I won't say how much I pay for all my stuff but all of them are very good deals. You make a great point though. I could make a few more points myself but I don't wanna. Your a great guy Rob, and I wanna see your stuff do great Rob. Tell me a lil about Pro 10 K. Are you happy with how the formula came out? What is the ph and is it more focused for residential or commercial? What something I should know about it bc I haven't kept up with what it is?
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I still have a container of the original Tile Master in my garage. Even though it is a powder will it lose it's effectiveness?
I kinda doubt it. Powders have a very long shelf life as long as no moisture gets in
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I know somebody that use to sell masterblend products. He bought a crap ton on stock. Then something happened and he got out of the biz then back in. It was a long time, and he said he still used what he ordered. When I saw his jugs they had a heavy layer of dust on them.
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So why is it that everytime I see someone doing comparison testing we never hear about the results? It's like going to a sporting event and being told to leave before it's over. I want to know who won!
My opinion of products is that it is way more about the circumstances then the actual products. I've had several situations where the results blew me away on one job, then the next job with the same product were just average.
Having the correct mixture, correct heat, correct tools, correct motivated technician, tends to be the deciding factor - not to mention correct type of carpet, correct soil..... etc...
Just give me a great all around prespray and hopefully everything else will line up for a "blow me away" end result....
and tell me who won!
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My opinion of products is that it is way more about the circumstances then the actual products. I've had several situations where the results blew me away on one job, then the next job with the same product were just average.
Having the correct mixture, correct heat, correct tools, correct motivated technician, tends to be the deciding factor - not to mention correct type of carpet, correct soil..... etc...
Just give me a great all around prespray and hopefully everything else will line up for a "blow me away" end result....
and tell me who won!
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Ive been testing the chems I use since the day I started in this business,,Generally it takes me a few months to formulate an opinion on a piece of equipment or chemicals! I want to see the chemicals perform in all of the areas of clean, dirty, semi dirty, pissy carpets etc...
but if your gonna do a side by side test of chems.... then you go to a carpet store and pull out the filthiest carpets you can find , and you clean strips thru it with the different chems to actually see which is cleaning the best.
that's my opinion but back to what I said at first I like to take the chems and see how they perform all day long for weeks to see what it does and what it doesn't do.
but if your gonna do a side by side test of chems.... then you go to a carpet store and pull out the filthiest carpets you can find , and you clean strips thru it with the different chems to actually see which is cleaning the best.
that's my opinion but back to what I said at first I like to take the chems and see how they perform all day long for weeks to see what it does and what it doesn't do.
Rob, What did you use for the poly, if it wasn't a carpet cleaning product? Simple Green? LOL sort of, but I am curious what you used to get good results on Poly.
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