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shane deubell

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I have a customer who uses his 19" Cimex to scrub every house...yes 2nd floor. But he's pretty strong at 6'4" 230!
yeah well he has 60lbs on me,lol
 

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How about a CRB machine like the prochem procaps? Or a Sebo Duo. The procaps can really dig that deep crud out of the carpet. It also get the pre-spray worked in on the entire fiber.
I have a Procaps and you are right, it is great for ground in dog tracks in living rooms. It has the weight to really get down to the nitty gritty but because of that weight I don't like to lug it in unless I know it is going to save me time over just raking. I usually use a 360i but sometimes even that needs some help.

If I had multi trucks with employees though, I would want something lighter and cheaper on the trucks.

I like this Sebo... only 11 lbs! But it does run $600... anybody know where I can get it cheaper? Besides eBay... already looked.

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I use a 13" floor machine from Canada $750 new with a handle that goes down so in the van the unit is 33" high x 13" wide and weight around 50LBS.
Yeah I have seen those too, I meant full size 17inch when I said $1,700 (which I have 2 of but only use for stripping wax) if I'm going to use a 13inch machine I would rather the Oreck since it is orbital and also uses a brushless motor so is zero maintenance.
 

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I use my Kirby with the rotating floor brush for light to medium, 175 for heavy. Kirby works well the brush was 30 bucks
 

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I worry about using any type of horizontally rotating brush or pad on resi pile that could cause tip bloom. I could be wrong but I think I remember from IICRC that using such a machine voids most warranties.

Thats why I like the vertically rotating procaps and sebo style scrubbers/encappers.

That said, when using my 360i it is rare to need any more agitation than the quick, light and cheap rake.


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A rake, a small hand held brush,a two headed koblenz, a three headed electrolux, a powerbrush, a rotowash r4, a variable speed 175-300, I use them all, it depends on the area to be cleaned. I can't see carrying a hundred lb machine into an upstairs apt, especially in the winter! The one I use the most is the electrolux. It folds in half has three heads and weighs 25 Lbs? The tank makes it easy to deliver a little extra chemical if you need it.
 

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For light to medium soil we use the carpet rake. For heavy to rat nasties we agitate it with the Rotovac brush head and then clean it with the same head.
 

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I rented a host machine for $20.00 and used it with my portable.The job looked alot better with the help of the Host unit. I am buying one this weekend for $300.00 used.
 

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Try the Windsor Drimatic, It's a powder Cleaning Machine, but it works great great for power aggitation, can be used on steps as well! only $650.00, but requires minor parts replacements every year or so, about $150.00.

Two counter rotating cylindrical brushes easier to use and lighter than a vacuum!

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I like the Taski ergodisc 200ScreenHunter_01 Mar. 15 14.39.jpgView attachment Taski ergodisc200.pdf
I ran Truckmounted cleaning systems for around 13 years. Scrubbed pretty much every carpet and got the most brilliant results using a scrubber and charged $5.50Aus per sq m (roughly 10sq feet). I had a reputation for getting good results and had the ACCI qualifications (Equivalent to IIRCRC) to back it up. This machine is so smooth it's like driving a Rolls Royce (Well I imagine - anyway). I put the cleaning solution through the tank Taski offer and put a tap inline to control the flow. Brilliant! Best results I've ever seen.

There are many machines that offer this ability. Have attached a good option from Karcher.

Also useful for encapsulation.

I'd love to hear what you ended up using.


http://www.johnsondiversey.com/NR/r...3-4FF2-BD86-F622D9AF1727/0/PISergodisc200.pdf
 

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Steve Jr.

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I carry 2 in the van for the real nasty the trusty old 175, and for the lite duty I found this little pullman holt I think its the gloss boss, on the ph website it sells for 200, found mine on craigslist for 60 and got it for 50 brand new and in the box two rotating brush heads it also has a few differnt pads that come with it. It does a good job but its load, and easy enough to carry to the second floor of any house.
 

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we used unico 17" machine for years.

the cimex is by far the way to go, after you use a pile lifter of course. you can agitate the fibers in both directions. think about that for a second.

my wife can roll it up stairs, but then again she has a 220# dead lift.

the other method mentioned as far as the 360 and using a wand only, my opinion is that these can make the carpet look great when the job is finished, but i question the depth of their method and durability of cleaning for two reasons:

1- typically there will be very minimal agitation prior to the cleaning pass. stains and soil will appear to be remove but will likely reappear because of this lack of agitation. 2- if no preconditioner is applied, the second requirement (agitation being the first) is minimized, and that is dwell time.

as for a tool to apply preconditioner, the cimex cant be beat. we use a steamway mastermatic BTW, that has more heat, and can clean better by virtue of that than many units we see.

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I have both a 175 and 360i with carpet brush head as well as the standard head that comes with the 360i, always have both in truck, depending on the type of carpet and condition of the carpet one of them will get used on almost any job. I use a portable, the mytee M5
I have a heater but find hot tap water works just fine and rarely use the heater. If i didn't have the great agitation provided by the 360i or the 175, then i would use the heater and allow longer dwell time, it's been my experiance that the need for high heat and longer dwell times decrease when using the 175b or 360i w/carpet brush head. I actually went to a apartment complex one time and offered to clean the nastiest carpet they had for FREE just to experiment different methods ( didn't tell them that) so in my opinion 200 plus degree hot water is not really necessary if using 175 or 360i or some other method of powered agitation, 120 or above hot tap water works just fine
 

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hey Paul i noticed you have that sprint machine is that made by power flite, they have one thats pretty much identical i think power flite makes that sprint, anyway I was wanting to get one since you have one how do you like it and what do you use it for, if you use it for pre scrub of pre spay does it take it out, have you ever tried it on tile and grout
 

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"grandi groome is good but wont dont anything to the carpet in the picture"

Actually you can agitate Berber with the rake, just lay down your chemical and let the agitation fly, now your right about grooming Berber.