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rob allen

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I came across the video and it shows a portable with 400 psi and what appears to be impressive heat. Is a Ninja capable of producing this kind of heat and if so how? And what other portables are capable of putting heat down like this?

[video=youtube;4rNaT_itvlY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rNaT_itvlY[/video]
 

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Yep,

You can produce that type of heat if your tap water is already 200 degrees. haha

But seriously, I'd like to know :AddEmoticons04259:
 

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i can tell the solus 500 can produce really good heat but not like that, the water in the solution tank was around 100F.
i have the mytee 1003dx, i will try it to pre heat the water to 140F and i got the inline temp gauge, and i can test the heat.
 

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the ashby ninja is from across the pond, and as most of ya'll know, they use 220 electric to power everything! i'd venture to say, they are starting out with some hot tap water also.

i have one of the original eclipse extractors from when cleancraft first introduced them about 8 or so yrs ago. it has heat and when i fill it with cold tap, it maybe gets luke warm doing carpets, hotter doing upholstery.
if i fill it with hot tap water, and do carpets, plenty visable steam can be seen, still not as much as the ashby ninja. doing upholstery after filling it with hot tap, the water will scald you.
 

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Ok, here's what this Ninja has going for it.

NINJA (PC1001) with - Heavy Duty 3 Stage Vacuum System (PC5866) -
1 x 3 stage heavy duty vac motor plus 1 x 3 stage standard vac motor -(230 inch of water lift / 17 inch of mercury lift).

400 psi Induction Motor pump with Pressure Gauge plus Flow & Pressure Control (PC5372) – Top performance for the fastest, most thorough clean. Heavy duty non-maintenance motor. This pump is capable of 600 psi, but limited by Ashbys to 400 psi for optimum life-span.

Built-in 3 Kw immersion heater with Low Level Safety Cut-Off (PC2007) - 0-60ºC.

Built-in 3 Kw V2 SteamMate (PC2017) - 0-110ºC – instant steam-boosted carpet cleaning for faster, more thorough results with lowest possible drying times.
No tools / hoses included - choose any tools and hoses required from left hand menu.

So... First the water is pre-heated to 140º F before it goes through a internal 3000 watt inline heater. I would say that inline boosts it another 30-35º F putting it around 175º F coming out of the machine.

They also sell an external version of the same heater. They may be running that as well for a total of 6000 watts after starting with 140º F water. That would put them up to 200-210º F, and might give them the results seen in the vid.

Still impressive none the less regardless of how many heaters they're running.
 

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All I see is some steam...what is the temp in the room? If it's 40 degrees in the room and the water is 120 it can look like good heat. Why not simply have thermometer that tells you the temp of the water coming out?

I have a Mytee Hot 200-120 connected to my Mytee M5 and it puts out good hot water but I dont know what the temp is so I plan to use a temp gauge so i know how hot the water is getting.

Something like this:


No doubt about the water temp then. :AddEmoticons0423:
 

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the only think is that two heaters total 160 C = 320 F . That is not 200-210 F !
You need to understand how these heaters are working in conjunction with each other before you get your theoretical heat. Read my last post, it's a description of the machine features.

You have one 3000 watt submersible heater that's designed to bring the water in the solution tank to 60º C OR 140º F.

Then, that water is then sent through the pump to a 3000 watt inline heater that's internal to the machine. That should raise the temp to about 175º F.

If they are also using another 3000 watt inline heater, that's external to the machine, that would bring the temp somewhere in the 200-210º F range.

I'm not sure where you're getting 160º C from? You don't get a constant temp increase through inline heaters like that. The most I've usually seen is somewhere around 8-12º F for every 1000 watts that you use. It all depends on PSI and flow rate.
 

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Great points Wes.

Here is what I would like to see and know: What portable puts out the most consistent heat? It seems to me that Ninja is kicking out some heat regardless of room temps. Just be cool to know exactly what one could expect from different units. Then many of us could make a decision based on several factors and heat is a big one. For any educated cleaner knows that our carpet cleaning chemicals are formulated to work with heat. So to maximize effectiveness of carpet cleaning chemicals, you need as much heat as possible, especially out of a portable!!

Rob
 

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I have a ninja with 500 psi and heat. When I was using this unit daily I would fill the fresh water tank and throw a bucket heater in, first thing every job. By the time I presprayed and got everything else hooked up and ready, 20 min to 30 min would pass. When I started cleaning the temp of the water was increased dramatically. At times I would see good steam and feel the heat flowing through the wand if I was using it (usually used R360). Didn't blow steam like in the video but the heat was substantial.

Propane heat would be an easy addition if one were so inclined. For the money the model I bought has been an excellent buy and I would have no problem cleaning with it again when there is a time to do so.
 

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Wow that wand is really popping in that vid! Kinda sounds like my 2 jet wand when using my porty and propane heat???? If this were a true electric heated porty with steam and popping like that.....I would like to know too.
 

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who cares about the heat if the vac is only two 2-stage like most portables are that have a heater.
I do !!!!! I Would rather have HEAT with 2-2 stage running 25' of vacHose than 2-3 stage/without heat running 100'........;) ;) ;) ;) ;)..............................................;) ;) ;) ;) ;)...............:D :D :D :D

Carpets will clean faster dry faster and better with HEAT and at 25' . :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Some of you guys don't give heat much credit. Part of the cleaning pie!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 

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