The echo 17 performed great. Using a revive fiber plus pad 100% encap i learned to pick back the echo to start because the torq will whip the handle out of your hand very powerful 1 1/2 motor.I like the lever location for handle location. I dont think you need the weight kit it compares to the grumpy. Ive never been a Mytee fan and think they have improved on quality at least with the echo 17 pro .Noise is good for inhouse cleaning i didnt get any complaints in apt. complex cleaning on a Sat.The price point package $2399.00 free shipping cotton , micro fiber and fiber plus pads with 2 gallons of Awsome with free shipping.