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I know there are many trains of thoughts but here is my favorite for my Ti wands. Here are a few combos I have found around the internet but I always go back to my trusty 11002's all the way across at 500psi. So what wand do you have and what jet sizes do you use?

Prochem Ti wand-6 jets

01 015 02 02 015 01

8002 9002 11002 11002 9002 8002

015 02 03 03 02 015

11003 all the way across

11002 all the way across-My favorite combo!
 

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hey those combos are interesting.

Rob what pressure are you working with?

My wand is a CMP 4 jet. Using 95015 all the way.

If I switch the inner jets to 02 working with 450psi
015 02 02 015

Does it make a difference?
 

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Raf I think everyone should tweak their wands to get the most out of their machines and deliver better results. Portables and truck mounts included.
 

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Hey Rob used the wand last night and its a beast. It is lighter then my 12inch wand and it has a ton of suction. I took some video I will have to upload it soon. thanks
 

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hey those combos are interesting.

Rob what pressure are you working with?

My wand is a CMP 4 jet. Using 95015 all the way.

If I switch the inner jets to 02 working with 450psi
015 02 02 015

Does it make a difference?
You will increase the maximum GPM allowed by 1 gallon by going from 4 015 to 2 015 and 2 02.
 

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I know there are many trains of thoughts but here is my favorite for my Ti wands. Here are a few combos I have found around the internet but I always go back to my trusty 11002's all the way across at 500psi. So what wand do you have and what jet sizes do you use?

Prochem Ti wand-6 jets

01 015 02 02 015 01

8002 9002 11002 11002 9002 8002

015 02 03 03 02 015

11003 all the way across

11002 all the way across-My favorite combo!
11003 all the way across - Unless you have some interesting techniques (DC comics "The Flash" works for you? haha), don't you find yourself putting down an exceptional amount of solution with a max GPM of 18. Even with 6 11002's that is 12 GPM. What about heat? Very interested in hearing more on this subject.
 

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When I bought my setup, both of my wands are as follows.

8001 8001 9501 9501 8001 8001

Im going to order some new jets and wondering if I should change....Usually clean around 500psi .... Give or take 100psi depending on the job...What do you guys think?

I do seem to get alot of lines in certain carpets that result in me having to re-clean in the opposite direction...Wondering if its because of bad or wrong jets..
 

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11003 all the way across - Unless you have some interesting techniques (DC comics "The Flash" works for you? haha), don't you find yourself putting down an exceptional amount of solution with a max GPM of 18. Even with 6 11002's that is 12 GPM. What about heat? Very interested in hearing more on this subject.
Yes that's a beastly amount Ryan and that is why everyone should "tweak" their jets with "their" machine. Finding the right combo for heat, flow,pressure and pattern will give you the best flushing capability.
 
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Just remember; nobody is going to be flowing more than 2 gpm through their wands. The jetting can be an #18, but your flow will be limited to 2 gpm or less.
 
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Rob and Ken are both correct. The maximum pressure allowed by your TM's solution pump will certainly be your limiting factor in the amount of solution that you will be able to put down at any given time.
 

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Re: Optimum Jet Sizing for Wands for carpet cleaning (TMF

Anyone else want to add there jet configuration here?
 

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11003 all the way across - Unless you have some interesting techniques (DC comics "The Flash" works for you? haha), don't you find yourself putting down an exceptional amount of solution with a max GPM of 18. Even with 6 11002's that is 12 GPM. What about heat? Very interested in hearing more on this subject.
It is not 12 gpm or 18 gpm. That is based on the magic number on the flow charts of 4000psi. They will put out much less at 500psi.
If you look at a #12 flow at 500psi it will require a pump output of 4.2 gpm. That is about right for a high powered truckmount.
I believe with proper vacuum like 2.5" hose most of the way and a good blower at 14"or15" it will extract alot of water and soil with that combo.
 

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Re: Optimum Jet Sizing for Wands for carpet cleaning (TMF

If you look at a #12 flow at 500psi it will require a pump output of 4.2 gpm.
You guys need to look back at the chart I published here earlier. #12 flow at 500 psi with a solution hose between the machine and wand will flow realistically less than 2.7 gpm.
 

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You guys need to look back at the chart I published here earlier. #12 flow at 500 psi with a solution hose between the machine and wand will flow realistically less than 2.7 gpm.
I meant at the wand it would take 500psi for 4.2 gpm. It would take a higher pressure at the unloader to get 500psi ATW.
 

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Re: Optimum Jet Sizing for Wands for carpet cleaning (TMF

When I use high flow tools I use the bigger 3/8" pressure washer hose all the way until the end and then I reduce it to 1/4" for the last 25'.
ps where is that chart again??
Thanks DREW
 

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Re: Optimum Jet Sizing for Wands for carpet cleaning (TMF

When I use high flow tools I use the bigger 3/8" pressure washer hose all the way until the end and then I reduce it to 1/4" for the last 25'.
ps where is that chart again??
Thanks DREW
Ah. Then you're the exception, most folks don't. Your #12 flow will be very different than the rest of us that use 1/4" hose the whole run. Here's the table again:

This chart assumes a jet (or jets totaling the equivalent value) at the end of a one-hundred foot 1/4" hose. It does not account for the wand, valve, fittings, etc, so your flow will be a little lower, but you can approximate flows at different pressures with different jets. The pressures in this chart would be at the machine with the wand keyed and water flowing.

 
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Re: Optimum Jet Sizing for Wands for carpet cleaning (TMF

9504's all the way across a prochem quad. seems to work fine. with glide and no extenders.

gene
 

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Re: Optimum Jet Sizing for Wands for carpet cleaning (TMF

Rob what pressure are you working with?

My wand is a CMP 4 jet. Using 95015 all the way.

If I switch the inner jets to 02 working with 450psi
015 02 02 015

Does it make a difference?
Rafa;

We use #9502 all the way across at 500 PSI . . .

on the CMP 4-Jet 14" or the Bentley 4-Jet 14" .

When you increase jet size too much, all the pressure drop is in the hose.

Less impact on the carpet.

Larry