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Silas

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I picked up this 11x14 rug which has slightly visible urine stains along one long edge and about a foot in from the edge. It has no labels to identify its construction material. My rug cleaning experience is minimal and so is my fiber burn ID'ing of material, but it melts to a brownish-gray bead (blue base/oranged tip flame) and does float so it's suggesting olefin. The rug edge sputters when burning and has an acrid smell so I'm figuring acrylic.

This is not as quick of a question as I had hoped to pose, but would I have reason for concern of any other natural fibers being present that could create a problem with shrinkage? I did a number of burn tests and did sense a burned hair smell in the rug edge but never saw any ash. I might be overly cautious which could be properly classified as paranoia. I'm still trying to build my business and one bad review might sink me, or at least torpedo. I figured I'd be using minimal moisture on most of the rug but will have to work the urine-stained areas more and will be more wet. I don't know if that's a Bozo No-no or not- uneven wetting effecting rug shape. I plan on drying it as quickly as possible w/fans and dehumidifier.

I still have a lot to learn, obviously, but greatly appreciate the advice I've received here thus far. Thanks in advance for any input.

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Silas

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I didn't use a flash on the label pic so as to not wash it out; also proper orientation got tweaked on attaching. As always, many thanks in advance!
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I didn't use a flash on the label pic so as to not wash it out; also proper orientation got tweaked on attaching. As always, many thanks in advance! View attachment 77952


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Pictures of the back help the guys with what advice to give you on attacking it. Good on you for testing the fibers first before asking. That will help the rug guys in what advise to give you also. I have little experience in rug cleaning. Ill let those that do it on a regular basis advise you from here. Good luck :)
 

Silas

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Pictures of the back help the guys with what advice to give you on attacking it. Good on you for testing the fibers first before asking. That will help the rug guys in what advise to give you also. I have little experience in rug cleaning. Ill let those that do it on a regular basis advise you from here. Good luck :)
Thank you, keep it clean. I'm not convinced I should even be doing rugs at this stage with limited knowledge and equipment, but it's hard to say "no". Might be a situation where the hard thing is the right thing, but I seem to be dealing with synthetics so I find some comfort in that.

Thanks again for your advice.
 

Smtwn janitorial

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I'm not much help but the tag you took a picture of is just a tag from a moving company, not from the rug manufacturer. Thanks for posting and helping others learn too.
 

Silas

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I'm not much help but the tag you took a picture of is just a tag from a moving company, not from the rug manufacturer. Thanks for posting and helping others learn too.
Too funny- Allied Movers. The tag is even more worthless than I thought!

Thanks Smtwn!
 

Silas

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Quick follow-up to all of this. Would Pet Zone be a good option for the urine present in such a rug?
 

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Quick follow-up to all of this. Would Pet Zone be a good option for the urine present in such a rug?
I would find a GOOD local rug plant, they always cut Deal for carpet cleaners. I use to strain with cleaning my own rugs, but now I make a good profit for pick up and delivery! They charge me $1.25-$1.50 per square foot and guarantee urine removal! They also do a ton of repairs, new fringes, new backing etc etc.... I am happy to charge $4.00 per square foot! Even the local Stanley Steemer bring ALL of there rugs to this plant! Last time I was there Steemer just dropped off 15-20 rugs! Not small ones either!
 

Silas

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I would find a GOOD local rug plant, they always cut Deal for carpet cleaners. I use to strain with cleaning my own rugs, but now I make a good profit for pick up and delivery! They charge me $1.25-$1.50 per square foot and guarantee urine removal! They also do a ton of repairs, new fringes, new backing etc etc.... I am happy to charge $4.00 per square foot! Even the local Stanley Steemer bring ALL of there rugs to this plant! Last time I was there Steemer just dropped off 15-20 rugs! Not small ones either!

That sounds like great advice, Dafloorman. I can relate to the straining part; presently my two car garage has been tied up for the weekend, covered by a tarp and rug with fans running, and with my lack of experience figure my results will be subpar. I dread every rug job.

I appreciate your input!
 
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I would find a GOOD local rug plant, they always cut Deal for carpet cleaners. I use to strain with cleaning my own rugs, but now I make a good profit for pick up and delivery! They charge me $1.25-$1.50 per square foot and guarantee urine removal! They also do a ton of repairs, new fringes, new backing etc etc.... I am happy to charge $4.00 per square foot! Even the local Stanley Steemer bring ALL of there rugs to this plant! Last time I was there Steemer just dropped off 15-20 rugs! Not small ones either!
I have been looking for a good rug plant that I could take rugs to. Just curious where your is.
I am in Port Saint Lucie. Thanks
 

Dafloorman

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I have been looking for a good rug plant that I could take rugs to. Just curious where your is.
I am in Port Saint Lucie. Thanks
Hey Scuba! I love your area! Unfortunately the plant is in Oakland Park, it still may be worth your while.
 

Dafloorman

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That sounds like great advice, Dafloorman. I can relate to the straining part; presently my two car garage has been tied up for the weekend, covered by a tarp and rug with fans running, and with my lack of experience figure my results will be subpar. I dread every rug job.

I appreciate your input!
Yes sir, we basic rug cleaners do not have the means or space for the equipment these plants have. One machine they recently purchased was a little under 100k!
 

Mama Fen

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The first time you run into one of the increasingly-popular viscose/Model/Tensel rugs, especially the viscose-wool blends, you will think twice about how "easy" it is to clean rugs...

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Your burn test does seem to indicate olefin and acrylic. Good Job.

When the edge binding is made of a different material than the face fibers, the two materials may react differently to moisture and heat. The result is usually edges that curl up. Two ways to handle this. Option #1 is to clean with low moisture such as Encapuclean O2 or Brush Pro dry powder. Keep moisture away from the acrylic edges. Option #2 is to pull the rug taut and use weights to hold all the edges in place during cleaning and drying.

There can be cotton in the foundation, but it does not look like that to me from the photos.

A friend who I consider one of the top rug people in the world (Lynn Tall) recently moved from Port St Lucie to Boston. She worked at a rug washing plant in Fort Pierce. They can probably work a deal with you.

We had great results in our recent rug washing class in Austin Texas. Joe Roberts and Mike Reed of Austonian Rug Washing both helped Doug Heiferman and I teach this class. Our next one is in San Diego Nov 7th - 9th.