Nautilus Extreme - 8.4" 2-Stage Vacs

[John Cable]

Really???

Under real life conditions?

I cant remove 40% of soils on some carpets using a rotovac. I may have to go over it a few times to remove 50% of soil in carpet.

Let say if a Rug doctor is used in a homes carpet by the owner, I most times find so much soil deep in the carpet it takes me extra time and more passes using a wand or 360.

When I did ask if a home owner knew if it was a pad cleaning, other type of wet vac clearing or a rug doctor before, most tell me they do not know what was used before to clean the carpet in question.

Tell me how come a TM using so much heat and 300 CFM with a 200 inch water lift does not clean as good.

I see TMs that do not remove that much soil, depending on the type of carpet and dry vacuum used.

First, you should read the methodology of the testing. Soil is evenly distributed throughout a section of carpet before the test. The particular extractor is used (mechanically, no human factor involved), and the amount of soil removed through extraction is measured. I'm not quoting number of passes etc. because I would need to reread the thing myself. It is not real world conditions, because those vary each time, but all of the products tested are tested in exactly the same way with the same amount of soil in the carpet and the same type of carpet before each test. The test isn't trying to determine who can clean the nastiest carpet (though I suppose you could make such a test), it is simply seeing how much soil you can remove when cleaning. No equipment gets 100% of the soil out, but many/most truck mounts achieve the Platinum rating (90+%) and a few portables (Rug Doctor included) achieved it as well. Like I have said, I'm not plugging the Rug Doctor here, but the test is test and it's fair to all and some products are better than others (some surprisingly so).

 

[John Cable]

Go to school or do your own testing.

Been to lots of schools...

 

[Tater]

It was said...No equipment gets 100% of the soil out, but many/most truck mounts achieve the Platinum rating (90+%) and a few portables (Rug Doctor included) achieved it as well.

Please remember this Platinum level is a deep cleaning SYSTEM rating, not equipment rating. So in the test, you must use the exact same products vac times (like 1.8 sec a foot ect)

There are no platinum level "machines"

http://www.carpet-rug.org/residenti...ce/seal-of-approval-products/systems-list.cfm

http://www.carpet-rug.org/residenti.../extractor-list.cfm?product_type=0&manuf_id=0

As far a just machines go, Gold rated Tennent EC2 and EH1 they only have 100 psi with heat and 200 psi without respectivly. Rated just the same as masterblend El Diablo truck mount among other tmounts. Interesting as hell to me.

 

[Jan Sullins]

First, you should read the methodology of the testing. Soil is evenly distributed throughout a section of carpet before the test. The particular extractor is used (mechanically, no human factor involved), and the amount of soil removed through extraction is measured. I'm not quoting number of passes etc. because I would need to reread the thing myself. It is not real world conditions, because those vary each time, but all of the products tested are tested in exactly the same way with the same amount of soil in the carpet and the same type of carpet before each test. The test isn't trying to determine who can clean the nastiest carpet (though I suppose you could make such a test), it is simply seeing how much soil you can remove when cleaning. No equipment gets 100% of the soil out, but many/most truck mounts achieve the Platinum rating (90+%) and a few portables (Rug Doctor included) achieved it as well. Like I have said, I'm not plugging the Rug Doctor here, but the test is test and it's fair to all and some products are better than others (some surprisingly so).

John I think we are all on the same page basically.
It would be a difficult thing to replicate a carpet that has been down on floor where
people and pets live. Carpet does not get dirty in a matter of minutes or hours so to
just sprinkle dirt particals all over the carpet is just not going to be the same as a carpet that is the biggest air filter in the house. Over the course of a year or so and
that carpet is likely going to have a bunch of dirt in it . It just migrates deeper and
deeper into the carpet fibers, backing etc..as time goes by.
They should do the test on a carpet that is actually been lived on. Probably
several carpets to get a true result.

 

[Ed Cruz]

John I think we are all on the same page basically.
It would be a difficult thing to replicate a carpet that has been down on floor where
people and pets live. Carpet does not get dirty in a matter of minutes or hours so to
just sprinkle dirt particals all over the carpet is just not going to be the same as a carpet that is the biggest air filter in the house. Over the course of a year or so and
that carpet is likely going to have a bunch of dirt in it . It just migrates deeper and
deeper into the carpet fibers, backing etc..as time goes by.
They should do the test on a carpet that is actually been lived on. Probably
several carpets to get a true result.

That is how i test/practice chemicals.When our installers bring back rip ups from jobs ill sometimes take old filthy cpt before it goes in our dumpster and do tests on rugs that have ground in over many years stains.

 

[Vito]

I got news for you all. to throw dirt on new carpet I can clean that with a rag, the test is worthless. LOL
I agree with cleaning throw out old carpet.

 

[GregAllen]

The Nautilus Extreme is currently the ONLY portable extractor in existence that has achieved the Platinum level of certification from the CRI. The Extreme is not yet listed on the website, so perhaps there is another extractor (like the Mytee Breeze) that may have possibly achieved similar certification but the site has not yet updated. Previously, the Platinum certification had only ever been achieved by truck mounted units. Here is the blurb about the APO Extreme and the CRI certification from the Interlink website and below that the link to the CRI info.

The Nautilus portable extractor achieved Platinum Certification from the Carpet and Rug Institute (CRI). The Platinum Certification is the highest designation available from CRI and highlights the superior cleaning and water extraction achieved with a Nautilus portable extractor.

http://interlinksupply.com/index.php?item_num=MXE-500AP



http://www.carpet-rug.org/commercia.../extractor-list.cfm?product_type=3&manuf_id=0

I know this is an old thread, but the CRI currently lists NO portables as a platinum designation. The Nautilus isn't even listed at all from what I can see. Correct me if you see something different.

 

[keep it clean]

I know this is an old thread, but the CRI currently lists NO portables as a platinum designation. The Nautilus isn't even listed at all from what I can see. Correct me if you see something different.

nautilus must not have missed a payment to the crii.

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[CCWorks]

I know this is an old thread, but the CRI currently lists NO portables as a platinum designation. The Nautilus isn't even listed at all from what I can see. Correct me if you see something different.

I seen it on the list last year, hard to find.

 

[CCWorks]

See about 10 down in tools

http://www.carpet-rug.org/CRI-Testi...-Systems/Certified-Deep-Cleaning-Systems.aspx


Hydro-Force System
Each sample is cleaned using a 3 step cleaning process. The first step is to pre-vacuum with the ProTeam 1500XP Upright four passes at 1.8ft/sec. The second step is to prespray with Bridgepoint Zone Perfect Prespray 6oz/1gl at 1.0gl/200ft2 followed by agitation using a Grandi Groom carpet rake. Allow to dwell for 10 minutes prior to cleaning. The third step is to hot water extract the samples with Bridgepoint End Zone 2oz/gl using 3 wet extraction passes followed by 1 dry extraction pass at a rate of 1 ft/sec on each pass.

 

[keep it clean]

nautilus must not have missed a payment to the crii.

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pffff hahaha just reread my post. "missed" was supposed to be "made" lol fk it.

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[Scott W]

Some Bridgepoint and Hydro-Force products are CRI rated as Gold when used as a system. This includes Zone Perfect and End Zone as noted in a post above.

There is a significant fee to be tested for CRI Seal of Approval and a fee to maintain that rating. Eventually, that fee adds to the cost of the product and cleaners pay for it. So, we only maintain the CRI Seal of Approval on a few items becuase some of our custoemrs do want that opr have contracts that require using CRI SoA products. Keep It Clean got to the heart of the matter.

 

[Deron06]

Looks good from what I can see except for one major issue; it does not have exhaust ports for mufflers or booster.

 

[Deron06]

Looking back, there is one other problem. There is only one internal vac stack. The leading parallel portables have 2 stacks and this makes a difference. We all know by now that you can't judge portable performance by the numbers that the manufacturers advertise. If you are looking for a series portable, this may very well be a good choice. If you are looking for the best parallel portable, I think that the 2 factors that I mentioned in this thread, would tell you what you need and this machine does not have it.

 

[Jimsteam]

Looking back, there is one other problem. There is only one internal vac stack. The leading parallel portables have 2 stacks and this makes a difference. We all know by now that you can't judge portable performance by the numbers that the manufacturers advertise. If you are looking for a series portable, this may very well be a good choice. If you are looking for the best parallel portable, I think that the 2 factors that I mentioned in this thread, would tell you what you need and this machine does not have it.

Good eye Alex ! Wonder if John or Ed ever tried 1 large internal stack vs of 2 ? I exhaust ..crazy.
Good looks and over inflated specs .

 

[Total Cleaning Service]

Has anyone here ever used this portable?

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[Scott W]

Has anyone here ever used this portable?

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I have cleaned my own home with Nautilus portable.

 

[jtsunbrite]

I have cleaned my own home with Nautilus portable.

did you use the extreme?

 

[Scott W]

did you use the extreme?

I would have if it had been available at the time. I used and MX3-500 Nautilus becuase that was what was available to me from among the machines that were being tested at the time.

 

[jtsunbrite]

but everything worked as advertised?