Mytee Escape or PE500 ?

[pgcleaner]

I am debating between a Prospector PE500 and the Mytee Escape. I plan to also have a 7500 Watt Predator generator in the van. If the generator has enough electric and circuits, I'll use an inline heater, otherwise I would install a propane instant water heater in the van. Thoughts on making a set up like this work?

Is it possible to get enough vac power through 100 feet of hose from a porty like the PE500?

 

[rob allen]

@John LaBarbera

 

[gordon qian]

I am debating between a Prospector PE500 and the Mytee Escape. I plan to also have a 7500 Watt Predator generator in the van. If the generator has enough electric and circuits, I'll use an inline heater, otherwise I would install a propane instant water heater in the van. Thoughts on making a set up like this work?

Is it possible to get enough vac power through 100 feet of hose from a porty like the PE500?

I assume you are talking about dual 3 stage PE500 with 205" lift and 190 cfm (19 amp two cord). In that case on paper, when you are using 2" hose, yes, it'll work. Suction wise it will be inferior to mytee escape or nautilus extreme, but i doubt you'll have enough heat if the water going in before the pump isn't warm enough. Even if you are using a dual jet wand under 200 psi with a 2400w mytee hot turbo, the output temperature will only be lukewarm if the input temperature is cold. A 2400w in line heater is only 8200 btu/hr(even though it's efficient), while even the little giant's entry model 2HT has a 65000btu/hr. There's just no contest.

 

[pgcleaner]

Thanks gordon qian. If I used the inline heater closer to the wand (after the pump) would that solve the problem?

 

[gordon qian]

Thanks gordon qian. If I used the inline heater closer to the wand (after the pump) would that solve the problem?

only if you bring the machine inside the house, fill up with hot tap water (like i'm doing) for minimum heat loss (especially for the winter), then a 1800w or 2400w in line heater will get it very hot at the wand. This is why mytee escape is adding a generator on the vehicle so a good amount of inline heating can be extracted from the generator engine, or else you'll have to stick with a gas inline heater.

 

[jarre]

I am debating between a Prospector PE500 and the Mytee Escape. I plan to also have a 7500 Watt Predator generator in the van. If the generator has enough electric and circuits, I'll use an inline heater, otherwise I would install a propane instant water heater in the van. Thoughts on making a set up like this work?

Is it possible to get enough vac power through 100 feet of hose from a porty like the PE500?

Which machine did you get ?

 

[pgcleaner]

Which machine did you get ?

You know after a lot of research. I ended up going with a gas TM. I got an entry level TM from Chem-Tex. $8500.

 

[pgcleaner]

You know after a lot of research. I ended up going with a gas TM. I got an entry level TM from Chem-Tex. $8500.View attachment 95798

My logic was that it is ultimately more convenient for the customer.

 

[Prowler]

You know after a lot of research. I ended up going with a gas TM. I got an entry level TM from Chem-Tex. $8500.

How is that working out for you?

 

[pgcleaner]

How is that working out for you?

I love it! I just did my first 50 hour oil change. Beastly little machine. I have only pushed it to a 125 foot hose run but I have 175 feet on the truck. I wish it came with an APO, but other than that no complaints.

 

[gordon qian]

@pgcleaner good for you, does the price include the waste water tank and fresh water tank? How many gallons do the tanks hold and what do you think about the reliability? I'm looking for a new/lightly used 370ss but they cost a lot more, I could almost get a like-new powerful air duct cleaning truckmount by that point.

 

[pgcleaner]

The price includes the waste tank (70g for the panther 14) and 100 feet of hoses. I wish it had an APO.

The performance is good for residential up to 175 feet. Haven't pushed it further than that.

Done about 120 jobs and it's not had any major issues. Got every job done. I can tell some smaller components want to come loose because of vibration. When it is installed make sure you run it for an hour to see what all needs to be tightened. That ended up being pretty important.

If you can get a good deal on the 370 SS, I would go that way purely for the resale value. If you spend an extra 8k now, you'll get it back when you sell it. My panther 14 will be worthless with a few thousand hours on it.

 

[gordon qian]

The price includes the waste tank (70g for the panther 14) and 100 feet of hoses. I wish it had an APO.

The performance is good for residential up to 175 feet. Haven't pushed it further than that.

Done about 120 jobs and it's not had any major issues. Got every job done. I can tell some smaller components want to come loose because of vibration. When it is installed make sure you run it for an hour to see what all needs to be tightened. That ended up being pretty important.

If you can get a good deal on the 370 SS, I would go that way purely for the resale value. If you spend an extra 8k now, you'll get it back when you sell it. My panther 14 will be worthless with a few thousand hours on it.

Thanks for the advice that a 14hp #33 blower is good for 150ft hose, that means 20hp 370ss or any other similar model should do fine in cold climate with longer hose runs. It's not easy to find a low hour 370SS with a reasonble price or a lightly used nautilus extreme or mytee LX, cuz ppl are busying making money with them in summer. After 3k hours, it would have very little resale value in them with repairs needed from time to time irrelevant of the brand. For carpet cleaning as my side business, I'm currently running a nautilus extreme (284cfm, 11hg lift) at 50ft with 2", but I can feel its vacuum is still weaker than the cleanco compact 47(equivalent to a 26hp-31hp slide in) running at 150ft.

 

[Prowler]

Thanks for the advice that a 14hp #33 blower is good for 150ft hose, that means 20hp 370ss or any other similar model should do fine in cold climate with longer hose runs. It's not easy to find a low hour 370SS with a reasonble price or a lightly used nautilus extreme or mytee LX, cuz ppl are busying making money with them in summer. After 3k hours, it would have very little resale value in them with repairs needed from time to time irrelevant of the brand. For carpet cleaning as my side business, I'm currently running a nautilus extreme (284cfm, 11hg lift) at 50ft with 2", but I can feel its vacuum is still weaker than the cleanco compact 47(equivalent to a 26hp-31hp slide in) running at 150ft.

What are you using for heat on the Nautilus? Also if you add a booster to that machine it will be as strong or stronger as a entry level TM .

 

[Prowler]

I love it! I just did my first 50 hour oil change. Beastly little machine. I have only pushed it to a 125 foot hose run but I have 175 feet on the truck. I wish it came with an APO, but other than that no complaints.

How is the heat on that machine? My ChemTex machine was strong and much heat but seemed to require much maintenance. Some hose burst once a month. Oil change was a pain. It went thru a lot of belts and couplers, The dema valve would get stuck and clog, The over flow shut off valve would not ever work right. Small stuff but all the time something. It seemed like my portable would go long time without problems or in need of maintenance. My portable with a booster had good suction at 150ft. I rarely ever used more than 150ft. If so just add another booster at 150ft.

 

[pgcleaner]

How is the heat on that machine? My ChemTex machine was strong and much heat but seemed to require much maintenance. Some hose burst once a month. Oil change was a pain. It went thru a lot of belts and couplers, The dema valve would get stuck and clog, The over flow shut off valve would not ever work right. Small stuff but all the time something. It seemed like my portable would go long time without problems or in need of maintenance. My portable with a booster had good suction at 150ft. I rarely ever used more than 150ft. If so just add another booster at 150ft.

The heat is perfect for me. I used an El Diablo diesel fueled machine for about a month, and it was way too hot. Hard to breath while cleaning, and it seemed like it wasn't even cleaning sometimes because the steam never really hit the carpet. Just evaporated as it came out.

 

[gordon qian]

What are you using for heat on the Nautilus? Also if you add a booster to that machine it will be as strong or stronger as a entry level TM .

mytee hot turbo 2400w, and water is source from hot water tank usually (110-120F). 2400w is only good for a dual jet 4 flow wand though. I tried it with 100ft 2" hose one time from a friend, the vacuum is still very strong for the standard 12" westpak wand. I would imagine if you need to run more jets and wider wand to clean faster, more wattage will be needed however.

 

[pgcleaner]

I have gotten to use a few different truck mounts and electric portables in the last 9 months.

Learning more about vacuum relief, engines, heat exchangers, and maintenance has been very interesting.

Any ETM users that switched from a gas TM?

 

[Prowler]

I have gotten to use a few different truck mounts and electric portables in the last 9 months.

Learning more about vacuum relief, engines, heat exchangers, and maintenance has been very interesting.

Any ETM users that switched from a gas TM?

I went from a ChemTex TM to Electric. My setup is a Sandia Sniper 80-3500H and a MyTee 7303 LX Booster. Good power and heat. I hardly ever use more than 110 ft of hose so suctions is good. Can go to 150ft no problem. If you go farther than 150ft another booster would be good but I've never needed that. Heat is ok but not great like the TM. A MyTee turbo heater would be nice. Less maintenance and problem with electric.