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2DogCleaning

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You see posts here all the time from new guys like me asking the same questions.....What machine to buy. I have been doing my research, nailed down a few machines but want to buy from ONE source. I can get this tool here, that machine there, ....this site has everything but one item. How do you guys select where to buy your goods? Oh, since I will be doing tile and carpet...I have narrowed down my search to the M12. I need some input about Olympus (interlink supply carries this). They have a machine for tile but will it do carpet as well? Also, is there a guide about chemicals out there? I am leaning towards Procyon(sp) but input would be good there too. Sorry about the questions but I feel you guys can help. Have a wonderful Christmas.....
 

locko-fabara

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Lee,
i will sugest something real simple thing,
check diagrams from machines online, or ask, check if the machine look simple to fix.
maybe some upgrade, not bulky, or whatever
check on ebay the machines, no really for buying but you can see better pictures, you can see the internal components etc
i personaly have a truckforce, same as olympus fx88 or something like that.
that machine has mostly bad things than good things.
more problems i have with my truckforce more i like my eclipse and the eclipse i used for over 1.5 years and the truckforce only 12 hours, and i had to change the motors twice.
if you feel you want to talk more you can call me, PM me.
 

Ed Valentine

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Lee;

I would recommend purchasing the right equipment from the right Supplier whether its from One, two, three, or more.

Very few Supplier have, or may make "EVERYTHING" you require that is absolutely the BEST available that will benefit you, the Operator. For example, Roto vac is well known for their particular rotary floor tool; however, handle your standard generic HWE.

Focus in on what "you really want" and something that will really benefit you in regards to making your job easier with less effort, and don't look back.

The very best to you;:AddEmoticons04233:
Ed Valentine
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Lefty724

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Hey 2Dog, did you ever decide on a machine? Just wondering if you picked one out yet.

If you have not picked one out, take a long, hard look at the Recoil XPS. We have a lot more time into the machine now, and I can honestly say that this machine surprises us more and more every day!!!! Again, and again..........
 

Scott W

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Good equipment and good cleaning agents are important, but don't focus so much on slight differences in product that you lose your focus on what is the most important - marketing your services!

I've read a number of places that only 20% of how the customer percieves your service is the actual cleaning. The other 80% is what the imporession they get of you and your company. A good relationship with your clients will keep you busy.

Our company distribute Olympus (among other brands). I think they are fine machines, But, there are several companies who have established a reputation for good machines. Similar could be said for chemicals. For example there are other products that use the same chemistry as Procyon. Bridgepoint's Prolon is one that most Interlink Supply distributors carry.

Support your local distributor. If you have a choice of several distributor in your area, consider yourself fortunate. If you establish a pattern of loyalty to one supplier, you will find they will likely be loyal to you. MAybe it is getting out an order evne after hours or makign sure your machine gets repaired even if the repair guy has to put in some over time.

Find a good supplier. Support them loyally. Focus on marketing and building your business. Don't sweat the small stuff.

Scott Warrington
 

rjfdube

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Lee I wish you well on your choice; I echo Floorguys recommendation; Very versatile. Modular design and years of research that was put into this machine is seen in it's everyday use. I however I recommend to find chemicals that work well for ya; try everything. The good thing here is it is a machine that you can start out with and build on.
 

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I've read a number of places that only 20% of how the customer percieves your service is the actual cleaning. Scott Warrington
Don't believe everything you read.. Times change.. Ppl dont want to see you rolling up to there House a 10gal. over sized RugDoctor porty these days.. They wont care how good a cleaner you are..! IMAGE man IMAGE..
 

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Hey Johnny B,

I don't understand your comments. Are you saying that the customer doesn't view carpet cleaners as professional if they use a portable machine?
 

2DogCleaning

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To Porty or Not to Porty

I finally got my porty ordered and received. I spent most of the day using it. I did not know what chemicals to use so I went with some recommendations from the place I bought it. The carpet cleaner is a 3 in 1 and takes 2 ozs in 5 gal and seems to work good. I do have some juice stains from my 15 month old son that did not come out and I did not prespray. What are some great chemicals that I can get for carpet, upholstery, and tile work?
 

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Don't believe everything you read.. Times change.. Ppl dont want to see you rolling up to there House a 10gal. over sized RugDoctor porty these days.. They wont care how good a cleaner you are..! IMAGE man IMAGE..
I operate with nothing but portables. I have yet to set a "bad image" and have nothing but positive results with many callbacks and referrals.

I believe that YOU are 90 percent of the sale. I use what has worked for my other business and it seems to work here. I would like to have a TM however, I have been in many situations that a portable has been the better way to go. I have 15 units in service and we hold a large market share in the hotel industry.
 

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Lee; For kool Aid/set in spots; use in a trigger sprayer bottle; use 1/4 cup alcohol, tablespoon of TIDE SENSITIVE SKIN Detergent; shake well spray on spot let sit 10 to 20 minutes; cover with a wet TERRI CLOTH towel; use a low heat iron for about 10 minutes; stain should wick into the terri cloth towel.

A good on the shelf chemical is Deep Clean by MPC.

I hope this was helpful.
 

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Portables are here to stay

I have used a portable machine since the early 80's and bought my first portable to start my business in Sept. 1987. It was a Castex Challenger 900. I continued to upgrade and later bought the Castex Dual Vac Automatic which had some features at the time were I think unique to portables such as auto fill and auto pump out. I'm not sure if they were the first to come out with that, but I know of no other who had those features beforehand. At the time it was one of the more expensive portables with what Castex called truck mount capability. I had it mounted in my van and used a propane heater for several years before finally buying my first truck mount in 1998 I think. I now use a Boxxer 421 mounted in a 2006 GMC van. Do people perceive me as more of a professional now than they did when I used portables exclusively? I'm afraid I think they do. A truck mount machine whether electric or gas powered definitely has an advantage over a portable both in power and customer perception. This is not to say that you can't do a good job with a portable and make many people happy with your work. Most people I worked for were happy with my work even when I used the Challenger 900, but sometimes I would get a few snide remarks about it especially from some men. Portables are a very good place to start in the cleaning business to get your feet wet. They also can provide a backup if the truck mount fails. They can be used to reach areas that a truck mount can't. They are excellent for upholstery and auto detailing and now with some of the newer models with more powerful pumps and inline heaters they provide excellent carpet and hard floor cleaning. Would I go back to a portable for everyday use? No, but portables can be used effectively with the right equipment and chemicals to provide excellent service at a low start up cost and many portables today are far easier to maintain that my old Castex units with excellent heating and recovery abilities.
 
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Pekay

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To Portable or not to portable

Hi Guys

My first foray into carpet cleanining was a Wet & Dry Vac cost $500, got halfway thru first job & thought "This Sucks"

Then 12 years ago I went thru the local Trading Post news paper and bought a second hand Steam Vac Commander Portable, Auto Fill, Auto Dump, Chemical Feed, Heating, 2 x 1300 watt 3 stage motors, 400 P.S.I adjustable pump and an 18" 6 jet wand unit was built in 1981, still got it today.

This was the Bee's Knees, then I got sick of pack/unpack unit, I then saw TM's and got enviouse. Didn't have the $$$$$ to buy a new one.

So I bought a steam Vac Hybrid, the main unit looks like a TM, with V-Twin motor, Heat exchanger & a 20 kva generator, my portable with booster box sits in the truck, I have all the benifits of a TM & Portable unit, if I need to go high rise I disconnect the portable and get going.

I feel more proffessional with the TM Hybrid, it's a much more pleasant enviroment within the home, no leaks, vac noise, cable etc. www.steamvac.com.au

This doesn't make me a better carpet technician, but importantly a better presented technician, it's the difference between good quality motel & a 5 star hotel both do the same thing, but only one does it luxuriously.

Q, Why do people pay more for a 5 Star? A, Expectation

Cheers
Pete