Lines In Synthetic Fiber Couch After Cleaning/Dry

[kwalker90]

Hey guys, first post here on TMF as this is my first screw up on a couch thus far. This has been discussed before, but before I go back to correct this mistake
I wanted to ask opinions first. Onto the problem at hand, I recently cleaned a polyester material sectional client says they bought it as cosco, couldn't find a material tag
but did find the listing for an almost exactly the same couch on coscos website and it says 100% polyester (still not completely sure). I used TMF revive prespray at about 2oz for 60oz hand pump sprayer (couch was lightly soiled), evenly misted after checking for color fastness on back bottom of couch. Agitated with horse hair brush, let dwell and extracted with warm water (no rinse) at around 175 PSI, looked excellent afterwards however after it fully dried client sent me these pics. Please note I did post groom with HH brush when still wet after extraction. I have a standard 4" external jet upholstery tool (will be upgrading) , the 110 degree jet did fail about a week ago and I had a 95 degree or 9502 jet on hand so stupidly I used it for this job, is it possible the spray angle of this jet is too narrow and caused these lines almost as if I ran too high pressure on my machine? From what I have gathered, it wasn't heat (warm water only) or friction or chems that caused it so the only thing I can think of is PSI is too high, angle of nozzle, or nozzle was too close to fabric or both? Lastly, what is the easiest way to correct this issue to get it uniform again? I was thinking of using a rinse, and holding my tool about 5-6" away from the fabric, re misting brushing and dry extracting again then finish with a post groom? I would greatly appreciate any advice. Once pic is of the couch post cleaning before I left, the other is the pic client sent me. .

 

[rob allen]

Hey guys, first post here on TMF as this is my first screw up on a couch thus far. This has been discussed before, but before I go back to correct this mistake
I wanted to ask opinions first. Onto the problem at hand, I recently cleaned a polyester material sectional client says they bought it as cosco, couldn't find a material tag
but did find the listing for an almost exactly the same couch on coscos website and it says 100% polyester (still not completely sure). I used TMF revive prespray at about 2oz for 60oz hand pump sprayer (couch was lightly soiled), evenly misted after checking for color fastness on back bottom of couch. Agitated with horse hair brush, let dwell and extracted with warm water (no rinse) at around 175 PSI, looked excellent afterwards however after it fully dried client sent me these pics. Please note I did post groom with HH brush when still wet after extraction. I have a standard 4" external jet upholstery tool (will be upgrading) , the 110 degree jet did fail about a week ago and I had a 95 degree or 9502 jet on hand so stupidly I used it for this job, is it possible the spray angle of this jet is too narrow and caused these lines almost as if I ran too high pressure on my machine? From what I have gathered, it wasn't heat (warm water only) or friction or chems that caused it so the only thing I can think of is PSI is too high, angle of nozzle, or nozzle was too close to fabric or both? Lastly, what is the easiest way to correct this issue to get it uniform again? I was thinking of using a rinse, and holding my tool about 5-6" away from the fabric, re misting brushing and dry extracting again then finish with a post groom? I would greatly appreciate any advice. Once pic is of the couch post cleaning before I left, the other is the pic client sent me. View attachment 102204 . View attachment 102203

Have you tried spraying acid rinse and brushing it out?

 

[rob allen]

Heres a video I did on the lines

 

[kwalker90]

Have you tried spraying acid rinse and brushing it out?

Hey Rob thanks for the reply, I'll be going back to the job next week and using all fiber rinse, def trying that first. Curious to see if there was also any browning going on, hopefully it's a simple fix. I did post groom it while wet but I didn't use an acid rinse, thanks again and happy Thanksgiving

 

[rob allen]

Hey Rob thanks for the reply, I'll be going back to the job next week and using all fiber rinse, def trying that first. Curious to see if there was also any browning going on, hopefully it's a simple fix. I did post groom it while wet but I didn't use an acid rinse, thanks again and happy Thanksgiving

If youre concerned about browning then you could mix some Unchained in a 32oz sprayer, mist, agitate then reclean. Or better yet use some Supercap with Unchained and bonnet it. Let me know how it turns out.

 

[kwalker90]

Ok awesome thank you. I was thinking about trying encap and bonnet, I don't encap alot mostly residential carpet HWE so I only have one encap juice from excellent supply it works very well for correcting impossible wick backs when the pad is completely ruined, if I get a call back after water claw/unchained basically is the only time I use it. It has peroxide in it as well its called Releasit encap-hydrOx, never used it on upholstery/fabric do you guys have any experience with Releasit brand juice on upholstery ? Might work well for this actually, thanks in advance

 

[kwalker90]

If youre concerned about browning then you could mix some Unchained in a 32oz sprayer, mist, agitate then reclean. Or better yet use some Supercap with Unchained and bonnet it. Let me know how it turns out.

Looking forward to trying super cap I run BioPro 10k , unchained, revive and still have some rat nasty left but I love your products bio pro 10K is the most versatile enzymatic I've ever used. Thanks again for your help

 

[kwalker90]

If youre concerned about browning then you could mix some Unchained in a 32oz sprayer, mist, agitate then reclean. Or better yet use some Supercap with Unchained and bonnet it. Let me know how it turns out.

thanks Rob, customer is satisfied. For anyone else viewing this in the future , I highly doubt the Costco brand polyester couch is 100% polyester. I reinstalled a new 110 degree nozzle, did a diluted revive mist, agitated, then misted with acid rinse and dry extracted. dried it quickly and groomed one more time. Came out mint. Thanks Rob

 

[rob allen]

View attachment 102243thanks Rob, customer is satisfied. For anyone else viewing this in the future , I highly doubt the Costco brand polyester couch is 100% polyester. I reinstalled a new 110 degree nozzle, did a diluted revive mist, agitated, then misted with acid rinse and dry extracted. dried it quickly and groomed one more time. Came out mint. Thanks Rob

Always glad to help.

 

[sbsscn]

another important things to consider

Heat!

many cleaner crank the heat up, not needed all of the time.
You really need to test fiber. Doesn't matter what tag says or what website says

they'll never mention a cellulose filler or when blended.

Here is a very helpful hint/tip. I don't think Ive ever seen or heard this here or anywhere

after you have cleaned the area, do some dry passes in a uniform and same direction,
use a clean white cotton towel and wipe the fabric in order words comb/card/ set the fabric nap direction.

You'd be amazed at how many "cleaners" do not groom the fabric. Thank me later, specially on velvet or micro suede

The towel will also serve as a quality check,

I bet if "cleaners" did this we all would be making money. A well cleaned upholstery takes time, not lousy 10-25 minutes that almost everyone takes.

Dare you to do your regular unchanged for this challenge cleaning and then do a white towel check.

White towel challenge
document and share here, double dare you!

Scratch that, Triple dare You!

 

[sbsscn]

Lower not only your heat but your PSI, I am shocked at the PSI that cleaners use. its NOT NECCESARY!
also clean in one direction first, then multipass
Do dry passes in one direct only
rinse thoroughly { another thing that a lot of cleaners fail to do seems everyone wants to do a 1 or 2 pass job (mediocre)

There is no such thing as "lighlty Soiled" unless your a hygienist or its only 1 or 2 days old.

Everyone thinks that 1 or 2,6 or 12 months is lightly or still new.
ITS NOT!
Do you know what can happen in 1 week of exposure to a smoky, dusty, dog or cat infested, busy, active, more than 2 people, house located on a main street, with windows open, next to trees or park, in a never vacuumed, or swept or had ducts cleaned or furnace filter replaced house? that sofa will not or ever be lightly soiled

 

[kwalker90]

Lower not only your heat but your PSI, I am shocked at the PSI that cleaners use. its NOT NECCESARY!
also clean in one direction first, then multipass
Do dry passes in one direct only
rinse thoroughly { another thing that a lot of cleaners fail to do seems everyone wants to do a 1 or 2 pass job (mediocre)

There is no such thing as "lighlty Soiled" unless your a hygienist or its only 1 or 2 days old.

Everyone thinks that 1 or 2,6 or 12 months is lightly or still new.
ITS NOT!
Do you know what can happen in 1 week of exposure to a smoky, dusty, dog or cat infested, busy, active, more than 2 people, house located on a main street, with windows open, next to trees or park, in a never vacuumed, or swept or had ducts cleaned or furnace filter replaced house? that sofa will not or ever be lightly soiled

Thanks for the white towel tip I’ll keep that in mind. House was in brand new mint condition after a remodel and the customer does not have pets does not smoke and couch was relatively new but who really knows, but it wasn’t filthy imo. I never clean upholstery with high heat in fact I don’t run a truck mount for upholstery , I use a portable and use tap hot to cold water depending on fabric. In this instance I already had my psi turned down to about 150psi maybe lower, however the nozzle was the wrong angle which concentrated the spray pattern and I was holding the tool far too close when spraying . The lines themselves that remained after correction turned out to be from the factory which is why I was perplexed , as the customer showed me the listing on the Costco website, we Both agreed we could visibly see the lines in the product pics, not to mention the lines were in the ottoman fabric that I did not touch. As for the light browning in strokes it wasn’t soil left behind as I did plenty of rinsing , too much pressure with nozzle too close instead of misting properly , and I think it was a cellulose/cotton blend (even though the listing stated polyester which could have been referring to other materials in the couch) I should have used an acid rinse the first time around before post grooming . Thanks again for the tips bro much appreciated

 

[kwalker90]

another important things to consider

Heat!

many cleaner crank the heat up, not needed all of the time.
You really need to test fiber. Doesn't matter what tag says or what website says

they'll never mention a cellulose filler or when blended.

Here is a very helpful hint/tip. I don't think Ive ever seen or heard this here or anywhere

after you have cleaned the area, do some dry passes in a uniform and same direction,
use a clean white cotton towel and wipe the fabric in order words comb/card/ set the fabric nap direction.

You'd be amazed at how many "cleaners" do not groom the fabric. Thank me later, specially on velvet or micro suede

The towel will also serve as a quality check,

I bet if "cleaners" did this we all would be making money. A well cleaned upholstery takes time, not lousy 10-25 minutes that almost everyone takes.

Dare you to do your regular unchanged for this challenge cleaning and then do a white towel check.

White towel challenge
document and share here, double dare you!

Scratch that, Triple dare You!

I did in fact post groom I use a very soft horse hair brush which usually works well for me and I spent about 2.5 hours on this couch. Will give the white cloth a try next time. The most critical thing I did not do was use an acid rinse , and too much pressure with the tool too close. I also assumed there wasn’t any cellulose, you are 100% correct the fibers need to be tested . I won’t be making that mistake again. Thank you for the reply really appreciate it