Finally have a knockout chemistry combo, or at least I've fallen in love with the results. Black Label prespray, Soap Free Procyon mixed at 15oz to 5gal in the TM. The Black Label does awesome tackling most spotting after a good agitation and smells amazing. The procyon has another round of cleaning power at around a 9pH but dries out on the acid side. Super impressed with the results I've been getting.