Jim Martin/Hoss/RX20 with a Porty

[Jimsteam 1]

Jim or anyone with experience with the new Hoss or RX20
Have you tried the Hoss with a porty ? Noticed they do offer an smaller orifice for a porty. Minimum Lift/CFM ? Fully understand shortest length of vacuum line would be best.
IMO both are better built than the less costly Roto Vac.
Rotary would only be used for "restoration" jobs with an added charge.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Sanjay Singh]

the rx20 is the king of rotary extraction hands down

even on uneven floor the floating heads are great you can also add a pad driver ( which I have time saver ) you don't need to carry a rotary and a tile head ( not the best works fine )

did jim mertin like the hoss so much he went out and buy one?

 

[AdmiralClean]

Be careful T. I hear Jim is looking for a portable to clean his box with. Don't insult him or he'll call Ed.

 

[Jim Martin]

The 360i would be your best bet with a portable...even with low moister jets and glides on a RX..a portable would not have the type of recovery that the 360i would.....
as far as the Hoss...I was using the smaller orifice with my thermalwave and it was perfect for my size machine...you can not jet it down any more then that....

and no I have not bought a Hoss as of yet...there has been many jobs that I have gone to after I sent the test machine back and wished I had one on the truck...I came close.... but I got a smoking deal on some equipment and decided to buy that first...good deals like this do not come around that often...


Shut up Marty.......

 

[Jimsteam 1]

The 360i would be your best bet with a portable...even with low moister jets and glides on a RX..a portable would not have the type of recovery that the 360i would.....
as far as the Hoss...I was using the smaller orifice with my thermalwave and it was perfect for my size machine...you can not jet it down any more then that....

and no I have not bought a Hoss as of yet...there has been many jobs that I have gone to after I sent the test machine back and wished I had one on the truck...I came close.... but I got a smoking deal on some equipment and decided to buy that first...good deals like this do not come around that often...


Shut up Marty.......

Jim,
Little puzzled. I believe ?? On the Canadian forum you were working with an poster who has much weaker Ninga. Saphire Science video also suggests the Hoss is "Porty ready" .Can't access that board for some reason hence why I posted here.
I do know of a couple Recoil owners who use the RX20 but at no more than 50 ft. for Hi rises etc..
Is there more "flow" with the Hoss compared to the RX 20.
I've read your posts concerning the RV with a TM and others with their concerns of durability.
My purchase must be something that has been trouble like my Recoil. Would rather 175 the nasties and flush with wand than buy a pos..

 

[Willy P]

2 quick points - Most portys use a pumptech - useless with higher flow as the pressure drops are stupid. And recovery? Forget about it- you'll end up wanding over after you're done.

 

[Jimsteam 1]

2 quick points - Most portys use a pumptech - useless with higher flow as the pressure drops are stupid. And recovery? Forget about it- you'll end up wanding over after you're done.

Thanks Willy .theses are the answers I'm looking for !
1. I can hold 400 PSI with my Pumptec (dialed in at 500psi) Yes big drop
2. Wanding after wards is what I am try to avoid , but when using the rotary I would charge more $$$$ considering the labor involved.
Using propane heat (3ht) would also assist greatly IMO.

 

[locko-fabara]

I use the rotovac only for restoration purposes, so i use the rotovac with extraction detergent, and then i have neutralize it, so i come back with a wand just under 200 psi and acid fiber rinse.

 

[kingjoelking]

Why not just scrub with a 175 and extract with a wand. Should be the same results and would be more pony show for customers. Custy's love pony shows for more money.

 

[Brett]

What is the best psi and gpm to run the rx20.

 

[Jim Martin]

Jim,
Little puzzled. I believe ?? On the Canadian forum you were working with an poster who has much weaker Ninga. Saphire Science video also suggests the Hoss is "Porty ready" .Can't access that board for some reason hence why I posted here.
I do know of a couple Recoil owners who use the RX20 but at no more than 50 ft. for Hi rises etc..
Is there more "flow" with the Hoss compared to the RX 20.
I've read your posts concerning the RV with a TM and others with their concerns of durability.
My purchase must be something that has been trouble like my Recoil. Would rather 175 the nasties and flush with wand than buy a pos..

I recall the post...but I don't recall telling him what to use and what the reasoning was behind it....the board crashed for some reason....

Why not just scrub with a 175 and extract with a wand. Should be the same results and would be more pony show for customers. Custy's love pony shows for more money.

go over it once with a rotary...or use a 175 and then a wand.....???... while he is doing a dog and pony show trying to impress some one......at least make some money......

 

[Jimsteam 1]

Why not just scrub with a 175 and extract with a wand. Should be the same results and would be more pony show for customers. Custy's love pony shows for more money.

That's exactly what I have been doing !
Trying to justify the 2K plus for a rotary.

 

[Priceless]

I would look for a used RX and use it for the purpose you intend too.(nasties)you can find them fairly cheap(2 @ my supplier) and you see that Terry guy using one with his set up,so yours should not be a problem.

 

[kingjoelking]

That's exactly what I have been doing ! View attachment 601
Trying to justify the 2K plus for a rotary.

Check craigslist like Price mentioned. Because they are on there all the time from $500 - $1500.

All of the reviews I have read about the new hoss say they are not impressed with how it wrks on low flow. They all seem to point to using the high flow version. So I think the RX-20 would be the better way to go. Also like Price said. Others are using it with similar set ups to yours and are very happy.

 

[kingjoelking]

By the way. That is a great picture.

 

[Jim Martin]

Check craigslist like Price mentioned. Because they are on there all the time from $500 - $1500.

All of the reviews I have read about the new hoss say they are not impressed with how it wrks on low flow. They all seem to point to using the high flow version. So I think the RX-20 would be the better way to go. Also like Price said. Others are using it with similar set ups to yours and are very happy.

The guy on the other board had already bought one and was reading the same thing about the higher flow...he pulled the orifice out flooded the carpets because he did not have the machine to recover the water....when he contacted me I told him to put the smaller disk back in and when he did that it was much better for him...If he would of asked before he bought it I would of told him the same thing I told you..with your set up the 360i would be a better fit....
the biggest problem it that everyone seems to think that more is better...its not..the 360i...the RX..and the Hoss are extractors....nothing more..and they all work a bit different...I have ran rotaries for ever and the Hoss is the best one that I have ran....but no matter which one you use ...you do not have to take it and run the water wide open....you are only shooting your self in the foot.....

In one step the rotary will out clean everything out there...with the right set up and balance...the carpets will be cleaner..and stay cleaner...plus if done right..they will be drier..........

 

[James Cooper]

I think any of the rotaries , including the 175 will do fine. If you have 2 k you want to spend on a " want " purchase , then do it. Otherwise you will get similar results spending a little more time dry stroking while using a 175 ( I would still dry stroke with any of the other rotaries - I like to sell fast drying ) .

These new toys are not necessities to clean with , however they can be time savers. You just have to decide if 2 k is a deal breaker or not. Lets face it, its a tough economy out there and folks cant afford to make mistakes.

 

[Jimsteam 1]

I think any of the rotaries , including the 175 will do fine. If you have 2 k you want to spend on a " want " purchase , then do it. Otherwise you will get similar results spending a little more time dry stroking while using a 175 ( I would still dry stroke with any of the other rotaries - I like to sell fast drying ) .

These new toys are not necessities to clean with , however they can be time savers. You just have to decide if 2 k is a deal breaker or not. Lets face it, its a tough economy out there and folks cant afford to make mistakes.

Thanks James
Not a necessity (Rotary) only on the wish list. I get great results with the 175 and a good flush (rinse).

 

[Jim Martin]

maybe I am behind the 8 ball trying to understand why you would want to use the 175 AND a wand..... when a rotary will do a better job and all in one step....

better clean...dries faster....and all in one step......where could you go wrong.....????

 

[Jimsteam 1]

maybe I am behind the 8 ball trying to understand why you would want to use the 175 AND a wand..... when a rotary will do a better job and all in one step....

better clean...dries faster....and all in one step......where could you go wrong.....????

2 thousand dollars. Can't justify the cost at this time.