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Cut ends off and install your own. Being sure to get solid connection. I like soldering the strands together before tightening under screws. See if that helps.
Yup did. Soldering is one of my few skills :) SMT soldering is tough these days since my eyes aren’t as sharp but under high magnification I still can. But standard anything I can solder a snot to a marshmellow lol
 
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Not trying to drive home my point, legit question. If a stack is let’s say clogged at the stack filter, and causes resistance in the motor could that cause the motor to thermal trip?
 

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Not trying to drive home my point, legit question. If a stack is let’s say clogged at the stack filter, and causes resistance in the motor could that cause the motor to thermal trip?
Technically will draw less amps. Motors spinning free use higher amps. But best to keep those clean.
 
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Ok that makes sense, GOT CHA! would be the same as having the wand on the floor. Thanks! See man that’s a member of the year right there.
 

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Ok that makes sense, GOT CHA! would be the same as having the wand on the floor. Thanks! See man that’s a member of the year right there.
Exactly, like the wand sealed on the floor. Now there are other factors that can cause it to overheat. Poor air circulation around motors. Loose wiring, low voltage, corrosion, arcing...
 
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Yup yup got the latter 1/2, but didn’t consider the amp draw part being the opposite of what I thought!
 

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"Put the petal to the metal". In other words, when you give those vacuum motors resistance, they are under load, and therefore will draw a lot less amps many times down to 7-8-9 amps. When you start the motors, start cleaning!
If a vac motor shuts down (many times within 10 mins or so) it is telling you that there is not enough coming from the outlet ( for what ever the reason). This, btw, is also explained and stated in the manual.
Also as explained above, make sure there is fresh air flow around the machine.
I can also assure you that we have never had....never, a bad vac motor period. Especially in a brand new system the way our testing procedures are concerned if this makes you feel any better.
Hope this helps.
 

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Thanks, Michael (AZ Home) for helping prove my point here.

Further, in regards to over heating of vac motors within the base of the JAGUAR 8.4 ETM, that is vertually impossible because of the design (unless the problem is external within the van, etc...). The design features a "Air-Insulator" which directly draws in external cool air while separating it from the confines within the base.
 
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take alook at this thread , i posted a close up of the thermal fuse , most likely your issue

https://www.truckmountforums.com/th...with-ametek-8-4-vac-motors-overheating.76527/
Ok guys thank you for all of your information it was amazing how each and every one of you got together and help me. Now this morning I did a test I hooked up all of my two machines the diesel heater and the jaguar 8.4 the jaguar has two cords to connect. I cleaned my leaving room with all of the three cords hooked up to three different wall every thing was a sauces no motors turn off and got good suction. I think my generator is no good its a 9000 watts, or the heat that it produces goes back to the exhausts of jaguar.
 

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Try using the jag plugged into the genset without it being mounted in the truck.
 
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Ok guys thank you for all of your information it was amazing how each and every one of you got together and help me. Now this morning I did a test I hooked up all of my two machines the diesel heater and the jaguar 8.4 the jaguar has two cords to connect. I cleaned my leaving room with all of the three cords hooked up to three different wall every thing was a sauces no motors turn off and got good suction. I think my generator is no good its a 9000 watts, or the heat that it produces goes back to the exhausts of jaguar.
I had my generator cause enough heat in the van that overheated the Jag
the way I solved it is just making sure I have to 100 but sections of 10 gauge cord have not had a single issue since I started doing it
Sign one outlet in the kitchen one outlet in a bathroom and you won't have any problems unless they have a weak electrical system and you blow a breaker. Then you just plug it in somewhere else really no big deal
 

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Yup the difference between cord prices online I just always use 10 gauge. But many it’s a pain to wrap them up after every job, and 2” hoses as well, then high pressure line, wears me out. I so wish I could get a hose reel but one thing at a time.
I reallllllllly want a nice wand. Using my Jag with my junk ebay wand stinks, but it works.
 

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Yup the difference between cord prices online I just always use 10 gauge. But many it’s a pain to wrap them up after every job, and 2” hoses as well, then high pressure line, wears me out. I so wish I could get a hose reel but one thing at a time.
Oh man hose reels are an absolute must!!!
And make sure to buy premium 10-gauge chords it makes a world of difference
The covers are just slightly bit more pliable I make some rap up just perfect it makes you feel good while you wrap them
 

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Yup the difference between cord prices online I just always use 10 gauge. But many it’s a pain to wrap them up after every job, and 2” hoses as well, then high pressure line, wears me out. I so wish I could get a hose reel but one thing at a time.
I reallllllllly want a nice wand. Using my Jag with my junk ebay wand stinks, but it works.
Put cords on reels. Or bring the 2 ends together making 100' cord essentially 50'. So you arent working as hard. And you wont turn into popeye with giant forearms lol.
 
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Put cords on reels. Or bring the 2 ends together making 100' cord essentially 50'. So you arent working as hard. And you wont turn into popeye with giant forearms lol.
Yea canned spinach isn’t my thing lol
 

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Oh man hose reels are an absolute must!!!
And make sure to buy premium 10-gauge chords it makes a world of difference
The covers are just slightly bit more pliable I make some rap up just perfect it makes you feel good while you wrap them
I’ll have to attend cord wrapping class. Some prob figured out I have horrible ADHD. I get 1/2 way through the first cord, and get frustrated a crumbled mess gets tossed in the van. Lol
Hose reel, man can’t wait till the day I get one. 2” hose and I don’t get along well at all.
 

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I’ll have to attend cord wrapping class. Some prob figured out I have horrible ADHD. I get 1/2 way through the first cord, and get frustrated a crumbled mess gets tossed in the van. Lol
Hose reel, man can’t wait till the day I get one. 2” hose and I don’t get along well at all.
I am that horrible boss that gives long-drawn-out speeches and instructions on how to wind up the cord just to get in my van after one of my staff has used it instantly want to murder people that touch my cords nice clean even loops overhand underhand and then I see the chords in my van and all I can think. kill must kill!!!!
 
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I’ll have to attend cord wrapping class. Some prob figured out I have horrible ADHD. I get 1/2 way through the first cord, and get frustrated a crumbled mess gets tossed in the van. Lol
Hose reel, man can’t wait till the day I get one. 2” hose and I don’t get along well at all.
These are probably the easiest and cheapest. I fit 100' 10awg on it. But i use velcro strap to keep it on there.that way i can throw it around without it unraveling.
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