I'm Shutting IT Down.......
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$600 a week unemployment for the self employed and a $1200 check the 2nd week of April.
Your wife will also get a check for $1200 and I think your children get $500
More to come if needed.
They are printing the money right now. National Debt going way up ... lol
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Let me ask you. If you go to your dr and they tell you that the hospitals will be overwhelmed in a week / A week goes by and nothing...Then she says, nono, just one more week. Week goes by and nothing happens. Now she says oh no we need to now wait 2 more weeks.
I am all for listening to a pros in any field. But when a pros is dramatically wrong 3 times in a row I tend to stop believing them IF you do not you are devoid of any logic. If someone is a pros they do NOT have a 100% error rate. Or they are in over their head and regurgitating NOT doing science and medicine.
Do your customers give you 3 chances for a redoo to fix a mistake. Hell no after the first redo you lose that customer for life if you can not deliver on what you said you would. YOu are no longer a pros. Your credibility is shot.
Or do you keep going to your dr when you go in with a broken arm and he keeps trying to tell you its the bunion on your foot????
Some fancy letters at the beginning of the name does NOT make them all knowing omnipotent. That is plain dumb and ignorant.
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Ill check. But pa hasnt been claimed a disaster. If they dont. As self employed we should be tax exempt. Thats how i see it.
This is awesome, now everyone gets to be dependent on the state to feed them!
Freedom!
/sarcasm for those that missed it.
Step right up and beg papa government, please sir, may I have another.
Have all of you men allowed yourselves to become cuckold beta males who are wards of the state who are now on your knees fellating the Government for your next dollar???????????
When you go running for that check, IT WILL BE COMPLETE>
Carry on ladies
This is how freedom dies.
And you all are cheering it on
Wake the F up.
"All you have to fear is fear itself."
Churchill.
Freedom!
/sarcasm for those that missed it.
Step right up and beg papa government, please sir, may I have another.
Have all of you men allowed yourselves to become cuckold beta males who are wards of the state who are now on your knees fellating the Government for your next dollar???????????
When you go running for that check, IT WILL BE COMPLETE>
Carry on ladies
This is how freedom dies.
And you all are cheering it on
Wake the F up.
"All you have to fear is fear itself."
Churchill.
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Exactly 'PRINTING MONEY' means more government debt and it means higher taxes to pay the loan. Every government in the world have announced the aid packages. Yes if you are smart you will understand what I mean from here on.
The world protocol is the same, if a government leader denies the package help, he/she will be fired, if a news agency speaks against this covid19 will be stooped reporting.
Most of you are sleeping. Wake up. This is done not to wipe people out of this earth but to increase taxes so the rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer. Someone will keep making money from interests as we pay higher taxes and higher living expenses.
Believe to a field profession doesn't mean that they are right. I had customers asking me if I pre vac, I said yes I do, the customer said well this is the proper way of cleaning. Later on when I met the customer at his house, we had a chat. He has nothing to do with carpet cleaning but he knows one thing, pre vac is a must in this process. He told me that the guy he hired didn't pre vac and the carpet cleaner expert argued with this customer that pre vac is not necessary step, so now lets thing about this, if you were a friend of this carpet cleaner and this carpet cleaner is giving you an expert advice that you don;t have to pre vac and you take this advice and get in to a conversation with my customer and start arguing about it, my customer says 'pre vac is a must', but you say no it is not because the carpet cleaning experts will not recommend it. This is exactly what is happening.
Almost all the doctors are following one world protocol, anyone who doesn't follow this protocol are been fired and taken out of the job. They will fire any news agent who speaks against the protocol so he/she doesn't wake up the people.
A lie, all the hospitals are full because of covid19 patients. The truth, the hospitals were already full from other causes, so the hospitals are not full from covid19. While back I had a small car accident and I have gone to the emergency just to to a check up, the hospital was so full I had to wait for hours before a check up, every flu season the hospitals are full, when my daughter gets sick good luck bringing her to the emergency.
Almost all the doctors are following one world protocol, anyone who doesn't follow this protocol are been fired and taken out of the job. They will fire any news agent who speaks against the protocol so he/she doesn't wake up the people.
A lie, all the hospitals are full because of covid19 patients. The truth, the hospitals were already full from other causes, so the hospitals are not full from covid19. While back I had a small car accident and I have gone to the emergency just to to a check up, the hospital was so full I had to wait for hours before a check up, every flu season the hospitals are full, when my daughter gets sick good luck bringing her to the emergency.
Ever wonder how your parents were able to raise a family on one income.
Most moms staying home to raise the kids and keep the house.
Its from dollar devaluation. And it is happening at warp speed right now.
Soon it will take 3 wage earners to keep a family.
Keep beggin for more though.
Its not longer your Company when you take the money.
You give that up to the state.
Most moms staying home to raise the kids and keep the house.
Its from dollar devaluation. And it is happening at warp speed right now.
Soon it will take 3 wage earners to keep a family.
Keep beggin for more though.
Its not longer your Company when you take the money.
You give that up to the state.
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This question is for all of you, have anyone of you heard the chip vaccines or chip shots? If you haven't then please do a research, it is out there and it is real. They have already tested it on animals and lately they are testing on humans, this is to slave humans and take things under control in an easier way by vaccinating the chip in you, but first they have to find a good cause to do this other wise people will not want to have this chip in their bodies. First they create a bad thing and then people will have to be cured and will have this chip vaccine as a need.
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I don't think we will see this in our time, but it did start. Let our grand kids worry.
I use temp gauge between trigger and line on wand ... machine reads 230- gauge reads @210 ish give or take 5 degrees on run length .... but i use 100' live lines (reel acts like HE to keep heat even) and only 2 QDs to reduce heat loss ... Live reel did increase my temps at carpet @20 degrees
On the Bright side... a lot of the O/Os who were busy spending all that $250k year they love boasting about will be outa business when this is all said n done because they didnt save 3 months + worth of operating cost.. so when this is all over ill be standing and buying all their stuff for 10% and taking all their calls for 20% price increase. ya Darwin!!
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This virus is not being spread the way we're told.
Social distancing is close to worthless.
NY's data makes this quite clear. So does Florida's.
Both slammed the door; SE Florida and NYC.
The bend should be evident in one viral generation time. The new case rate should collapse in two viral generation times. If Community Transmission via bars, restaurants and "social interaction" was more than 2/3rds of the total the effective R0 would go under 1.0 and community transmission would collapse. If it was half then R0 would be 1.5 and we'd have transmission approximately equal to a bad seasonal flu.
IF you actually bent the curve.
These measures did not bend it to any material degree. Enough time has passed to know this is true; at most they have lengthened a "turn time" by one day (in other words, R3.0 to R2.5.) That's effectively nothing!
Why not?
It's being spread in the medical environment -- specifically, in the hospitals -- not, in the main, on the beach or in the bar.
When Singapore and South Korea figured out that if as a medical provider you wash your damn hands before and after, without exception, every potential contact with an infected person or surface even if you didn't have a mask on for 30 minutes during casual conversations with others (e.g. neither of you is hacking) transmission to and between their medical providers stopped.
Note -- even if you didn't have a mask on and were not social distancing in the work environment, which of course is impossible if you're working with others in a hospital, you didn't get infected.
And guess what immediately happened after that? Their national case rate stabilized and fell.
The hypothesis that fits the facts is that a material part of transmission is actually happening in the hospital with the medical providers spreading it through the community both directly and indirectly.
Remember that all disease R0 is a composite of all the elements of transmission. If any material part of transmission is happening in hospitals and other medical settings stopping that will stop or greatly attenuate community transmission. Every medical provider goes home and interacts with the public.
Then the hospital fills up and guess what -- they call in more doctors, nurses, orderlies and other people. In fact they've done exactly that; in hard-hit places they're getting volunteers. Excellent, they need the workers, except every one of those new workers in the place is also a brand new vector to the rest of the community too unless they wash their damn hands before and after every contact with any item or person as well.
What's worse is that the data is that if you wind up on a vent you die nearly all the time. They had a doc on Tucker Carlson last night confirming that we are not doing materially better than Wuhan in this regard.
We're wrong about how this thing is spreading and we're wrong about the silent attack rate. The step functions in the data here in the United States cannot be explained by ordinary community transmission but they are completely explained if the transmission is happening not among ordinary casual contact -- that is, not "social distancing", but rather through the medical system itself. That explains the step functions that are seen in places like Florida since it takes several days before you seek medical attention after infection and it also explains why NY, despite locking down the city and more than one viral generation time passing -- in fact two -- has seen no material decrease at all in their transmission rate.
In addition it further is supported by the fact that what we've seen here, in Italy, in Wuhan -- indeed everywhere is not an exponential curve. It's a step-function flat acceleration graph. Broad community transmission doesn't happen this way (you instead get a straight and continual exponential expansion until you start to obtain suppression via herd immunity) but if the spread happens as each "generation" gets driven to hospitals for testing and medical attention and the spread is largely happening there what we see here and in other nations in the case rate data is exactly the function you produce in terms of exposure rates.
In other words there should be no straight-line sections in the case rate graphs -- but there are.
Fix the protocols in the hospitals right damn now. PPE is not the answer if your hands, gloved or not, become contaminated and not immediately washed off. Hand-washing at an obsessive level -- before and after each patient interaction and before and after each contact with a piece of equipment that might be contaminated is. In other words the monster vector (remember, R0 is a composite, not a single number) which I've hypothesized since this started is not oral droplets -- it's fecal.
This also correlates exactly with the explosive spread in nursing homes where many residents are incontinent.
Folks, by definition medical facilities concentrate sick people into small spaces. If what's wrong with them is not infectious this doesn't matter. But if it is you had better not transmit anything between them or between you and them or you instantly become one of the, if not the only vector that matters.
Then as the place fills up you have more people working and thus more vectors into the rest of the community. Even if you have gotten the virus as a nurse or doctor and recovered and thus are immune if you have it on your hands and go down the escalator to the subway you can still contaminate the railing and the grab-rail in the car unless you wash your damn hands before and after any contact with any thing or person!
The presence of step functions and apparent linear-fit line segments in what should be a clean parabolic curve says this is exactly what has happened.
That in turn explains why the lockdowns are not doing a damn thing -- except destroying the economy, that we must do everything in our power to keep people out of the hospital in the first place and that, in turn, means using even potentially-valid prophylaxis and promising (but not yet proved) treatments early in the course of the disease so as to keep people out of the damned hospital in the first place while fixing the protocols in the hospitals so they stop transmitting the bug.
Don't tell me about all the doctors and nurses doing this already. That's a lie. I've been in plenty of hospitals (and worse, in nursing homes) in my years and in exactly zero instances have I seen any evidence that before and after each contact, with zero exceptions, those hands go under a stream of water with soap.
And reopen the damned economy.
Now.
This virus is not being spread the way we're told.
Social distancing is close to worthless.
NY's data makes this quite clear. So does Florida's.
Both slammed the door; SE Florida and NYC.
The bend should be evident in one viral generation time. The new case rate should collapse in two viral generation times. If Community Transmission via bars, restaurants and "social interaction" was more than 2/3rds of the total the effective R0 would go under 1.0 and community transmission would collapse. If it was half then R0 would be 1.5 and we'd have transmission approximately equal to a bad seasonal flu.
IF you actually bent the curve.
These measures did not bend it to any material degree. Enough time has passed to know this is true; at most they have lengthened a "turn time" by one day (in other words, R3.0 to R2.5.) That's effectively nothing!
Why not?
It's being spread in the medical environment -- specifically, in the hospitals -- not, in the main, on the beach or in the bar.
When Singapore and South Korea figured out that if as a medical provider you wash your damn hands before and after, without exception, every potential contact with an infected person or surface even if you didn't have a mask on for 30 minutes during casual conversations with others (e.g. neither of you is hacking) transmission to and between their medical providers stopped.
Note -- even if you didn't have a mask on and were not social distancing in the work environment, which of course is impossible if you're working with others in a hospital, you didn't get infected.
And guess what immediately happened after that? Their national case rate stabilized and fell.
The hypothesis that fits the facts is that a material part of transmission is actually happening in the hospital with the medical providers spreading it through the community both directly and indirectly.
Remember that all disease R0 is a composite of all the elements of transmission. If any material part of transmission is happening in hospitals and other medical settings stopping that will stop or greatly attenuate community transmission. Every medical provider goes home and interacts with the public.
Then the hospital fills up and guess what -- they call in more doctors, nurses, orderlies and other people. In fact they've done exactly that; in hard-hit places they're getting volunteers. Excellent, they need the workers, except every one of those new workers in the place is also a brand new vector to the rest of the community too unless they wash their damn hands before and after every contact with any item or person as well.
What's worse is that the data is that if you wind up on a vent you die nearly all the time. They had a doc on Tucker Carlson last night confirming that we are not doing materially better than Wuhan in this regard.
We're wrong about how this thing is spreading and we're wrong about the silent attack rate. The step functions in the data here in the United States cannot be explained by ordinary community transmission but they are completely explained if the transmission is happening not among ordinary casual contact -- that is, not "social distancing", but rather through the medical system itself. That explains the step functions that are seen in places like Florida since it takes several days before you seek medical attention after infection and it also explains why NY, despite locking down the city and more than one viral generation time passing -- in fact two -- has seen no material decrease at all in their transmission rate.
In addition it further is supported by the fact that what we've seen here, in Italy, in Wuhan -- indeed everywhere is not an exponential curve. It's a step-function flat acceleration graph. Broad community transmission doesn't happen this way (you instead get a straight and continual exponential expansion until you start to obtain suppression via herd immunity) but if the spread happens as each "generation" gets driven to hospitals for testing and medical attention and the spread is largely happening there what we see here and in other nations in the case rate data is exactly the function you produce in terms of exposure rates.
In other words there should be no straight-line sections in the case rate graphs -- but there are.
Fix the protocols in the hospitals right damn now. PPE is not the answer if your hands, gloved or not, become contaminated and not immediately washed off. Hand-washing at an obsessive level -- before and after each patient interaction and before and after each contact with a piece of equipment that might be contaminated is. In other words the monster vector (remember, R0 is a composite, not a single number) which I've hypothesized since this started is not oral droplets -- it's fecal.
This also correlates exactly with the explosive spread in nursing homes where many residents are incontinent.
Folks, by definition medical facilities concentrate sick people into small spaces. If what's wrong with them is not infectious this doesn't matter. But if it is you had better not transmit anything between them or between you and them or you instantly become one of the, if not the only vector that matters.
Then as the place fills up you have more people working and thus more vectors into the rest of the community. Even if you have gotten the virus as a nurse or doctor and recovered and thus are immune if you have it on your hands and go down the escalator to the subway you can still contaminate the railing and the grab-rail in the car unless you wash your damn hands before and after any contact with any thing or person!
The presence of step functions and apparent linear-fit line segments in what should be a clean parabolic curve says this is exactly what has happened.
That in turn explains why the lockdowns are not doing a damn thing -- except destroying the economy, that we must do everything in our power to keep people out of the hospital in the first place and that, in turn, means using even potentially-valid prophylaxis and promising (but not yet proved) treatments early in the course of the disease so as to keep people out of the damned hospital in the first place while fixing the protocols in the hospitals so they stop transmitting the bug.
Don't tell me about all the doctors and nurses doing this already. That's a lie. I've been in plenty of hospitals (and worse, in nursing homes) in my years and in exactly zero instances have I seen any evidence that before and after each contact, with zero exceptions, those hands go under a stream of water with soap.
And reopen the damned economy.
Now.
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