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on Friday April 3 I posted that my Wife and I had the discussion about closing the business down. What it boiled down to is what is the risk (bringing the virus home) vs the reward (small amount of work booked and not too many calls coming in) We decided it was best to close until things open up again.

That got me started to think even more because if you dont know me, let me tell you that I am a person that likes to look at the FACTS and the FEAR that has been presented upon us hasnt always rung true to me. I have seen Spazznouts post about the video so I finally took the time to view it. I suggest you do the same.

I have known for a long time that what is told us sometimes isnt the whole story. A great example of this is the recent headline that read *USPS Warns It Might Have to Shutter by June as $2 Trillion coronavirus stimulus package provides no funding.* What they DONT tell us is that the Post Office actually MAKES money for the US Government and any shortage is due to the fact that the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA) required the USPS to create a $72 billion fund to pay for the cost of its post-retirement health care costs, 75 years into the future. This burden applies to no other federal agency or private corporation. If the costs of this retiree health care mandate were removed from the USPS financial statements, the Post Office would have reported operating profits in each of the last six years.

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So what are we hearing now? The Coronavirus is a Worldwide Pandemic affecting over a million people and killing almost 6000 WORLDWIDE (as of April 5) Hospital Beds and Ventilators are in short supply.

What are they NOT telling us? According to the CDC, in the 2018-2019 USA influenza season, there were 35,520,883 people affected with 34,157 deaths. In fact, the CDC says that the percentage of deaths from pneumonia and influenza is 8.2% above the Epidemic threshold of 7.2%. WHAT? Did the CDC ever say anything about an influenza Epedemic? And what do the people that have these diseases use? Hospitals and Ventilators!

But wait, theres more! According to the CDC, in the 2018-2019 USA Flu season there were 39,000,000 - 55,000,000 illnesses, 400.000 -730,000 hospitalizations and 24,000 - 63,000 deaths.

Then look at Brazil and Mexico where there is no Stay At Home order. The USA has a 26 deaths per 1 million population Coronavirus death ratio. Brazil has 2 and Mexico at .5 per 1 million population. Why is that?

This is only after about 2 hours of research after viewing the video, most available on the CDC website.

This is not meant as some conspiracy related post. But the FACTS dont MATCH what they are telling us.

So the real question is, What are they NOT telling us?
 
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Have you checked on whats going on in Ecuador?

Mexico is also suffering from this coronavirus, we are just not getting the news bout them (possibly not important news?...I guess)

I agree with you. Lots of info not being given to us at least not the full story.

The city across from San Francisco; Oakland received a cruise liner with a bunch of infected travelers, the city of San Francisco was suppose to have received the ship but instead the ship was docked at Oakland, We'll there are no news about the amount of people infected in Oakland or its surrounding cities....Why?? Nothing is being said about the City and the large amount of hardship that the city of Oakland is going through.

I had to close everything up, No one is calling and I have tried to reach out to customers and offer help. few respond with a thankful heart and promising to call me when everything returns to normal. All I can say is that if you work be careful, if you have any PPE use it.
Thank God I was able to get hold of disinfectant. I have PPE and will use it whenever work is presented to do.

Hang in there. We are almost there, With God's help victory is just over the hill.
 
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PS...get your ads fired up guys...

We never stopped and I have both trucks running 5 days this week and and am half way booked for next week. You gotta target the 50% of folks who are looking at facts and numbers and not running around with their hair on fire.

Those small businesses who stop now, may not make it back............law of momentum. Its hard to get it back, especially since we are going to be facing the headwinds of a recession once the all clear is sounded.



Off your ass and on your feet,
You don't work you don't eat.
 
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Today, this morning the CDC announced..............OOPS our model was wrong.....at the most 87,000 are gonna die of corona.

OPEN THE DAMN ECONOMY!

ENOUGH BULL $HIT!
So are you claiming the measures that are being undertaken if lifted would have no affect on that 87000 deaths number? These measures are in affect because experts and the medical communities and hospitals are asking for them.
 

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So are you claiming the measures that are being undertaken if lifted would have no affect on that 87000 deaths number? These measures are in affect because experts and the medical communities and hospitals are asking for them.
I would have to agree... especially being here in WA state, that had these measures and stay home orders not have been put in place this thing would be way out of control.

We are finally seeing some positive impact from this, we are shipping extra ventilators to NY, Trump had a large mobile hospital moved from here to I believe Detroit.

We are just starting to flatten out a bit here although some have warned of a surge this week. Well see.

Nonetheless can you imagine if nothing was done?

Even with the stay home order they have had enough trouble keeping idiots from throwing parties, going to the beaches...

the ski resorts didn't close at first and there was a million idiots up there spreading infection for days
 

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The main issue in CA is that all construction and residential work has been banned. Business owners may be subject to fines. Some landscapers are still working, but only in the back yards. A carpet cleaning van is just too loud and visible to continue working.
 

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So are you claiming the measures that are being undertaken if lifted would have no affect on that 87000 deaths number? These measures are in affect because experts and the medical communities and hospitals are asking for them.
That is exactly what I am saying. The 2-3 weeks depending on what state you live in is NOT long enough to "flatten the curve" .....Period full stop....that takes 3 generations or 18-21 days.

Dr Fauci yesterday when asked said he guessed up to 50% of the population has or has already had the virus. We are nearing preliminary population immunity!!!!! That does NOT happen in 3 weeks. That take 4-6 months.
Which fits the data I have been screaming about....

This virus has been here since late October early November.

We reached peak population infection sometime in early March..........BEFORE all the lockdowns.

Sure in New york and Washington and only in some counties lockdowns made sense. The rest of the county..........HELL NO.

EVEN china did not lock down the whole country

Its over folks

Back to work or your going to get left behind
 
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The main issue in CA is that all construction and residential work has been banned. Business owners may be subject to fines. Some landscapers are still working, but only in the back yards. A carpet cleaning van is just too loud and visible to continue working.
Little communist country right there...........I would move
 
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That is exactly what I am saying. The 2-3 weeks depending on what state you live in is NOT long enough to "flatten the curve" .....Period full stop....that takes 3 generations or 18-21 days.

Dr Fauci yesterday when asked said he guessed up to 50% of the population has or has already had the virus. We are nearing preliminary population immunity!!!!! That does NOT happen in 3 weeks. That take 4-6 months.
Which fits the data I have been screaming about....

This virus has been here since late October early November.

We reached peak population infection sometime in early March..........BEFORE all the lockdowns.

Sure in New york and Washington and only in some counties lockdowns made sense. The rest of the county..........HELL NO.

EVEN china did not lock down the whole country

Its over folks

Back to work or your going to get left behind
Lol nobody’s calling.............so why are the hospitals and medical community wholeheartedly agreeing that everyone stay home? I’m not talking about communities untouched.
 

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Lol nobody’s calling.............so why are the hospitals and medical community wholeheartedly agreeing that everyone stay home? I’m not talking about communities untouched.
By all you mean the ones on TV....

Go check out twitter...

tons of threads of nurses getting put on call and sent home early. There hospitals are dead.

Check out 1 of hundreds of drs who have an opposing view to what is happening now.
My guess is you have NOT.

ALL drs and Nurses are NOT in agreement.


Whats even more odd is that google and youtube are scrubbing these drs quickly and burying them in the search results..............WHY??????
 
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The main issue in CA is that all construction and residential work has been banned. Business owners may be subject to fines. Some landscapers are still working, but only in the back yards. A carpet cleaning van is just too loud and visible to continue working.

I wish construction would be banned over here, But its NOT!

Everyone in the bay area is wondering why the heck they are out there working?!?! Even the workers themselves are wondering.

A brother in law just left the bay area and moved to Nevada cause he thinks we're all scared, afraid and in a huge panic. He says there's plenty of work especially in construction. Its him his wife and 2 little kids. We all disagreed and encouraged him to stay and wait it out, dont risk it. He said the border is wide open and no one is at the border checking or stopping anyone. He went back and forth from the bay area to Nevada Las Vegas on a borrowed pick up 6-8 times, took them almost a week . I am so disappointed with him. Risking taking or bringing something here. His wife texted us that when they arrived on Saturday they noticed everything closed up in Reno but they said everything is fine in Las Vegas.

I have no problem turning him in for negligence.
 

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I wish construction would be banned over here, But its NOT!

Everyone in the bay area is wondering why the heck they are out there working?!?! Even the workers themselves are wondering.

A brother in law just left the bay area and moved to Nevada cause he thinks we're all scared, afraid and in a huge panic. He says there's plenty of work especially in construction. Its him his wife and 2 little kids. We all disagreed and encouraged him to stay and wait it out, dont risk it. He said the border is wide open and no one is at the border checking or stopping anyone. He went back and forth from the bay area to Nevada Las Vegas on a borrowed pick up 6-8 times, took them almost a week . I am so disappointed with him. Risking taking or bringing something here. His wife texted us that when they arrived on Saturday they noticed everything closed up in Reno but they said everything is fine in Las Vegas.

I have no problem turning him in for negligence.
are you still working under the assumption that you your kids and everyone you love are not going to get this....

All drs say we are all going to get this...last night Dr Fauci on stage standing next to Trump said he estimated 50% of the population had already contracted the virus. Until we reach herd immunity at somewhere around 80% infection rate the virus will spread.
Once they let up the lockdown, a second wave will form that will finalize the herd immunity process...then the Chinese Wuhan virus will just be a small new part of our annual flu season.
Facts not fear...everything you typed is fear based
 

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Facts not fear...everything you typed is fear based
Bingo! The discussion with my wife to close the business was completely made out of fear. However if it was my decision alone, I would be out there cleaning. Now I am more informed with more facts and financially should be fine. What we do for family...
 

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I wish construction would be banned over here, But its NOT!

Everyone in the bay area is wondering why the heck they are out there working?!?! Even the workers themselves are wondering.

A brother in law just left the bay area and moved to Nevada cause he thinks we're all scared, afraid and in a huge panic. He says there's plenty of work especially in construction. Its him his wife and 2 little kids. We all disagreed and encouraged him to stay and wait it out, dont risk it. He said the border is wide open and no one is at the border checking or stopping anyone. He went back and forth from the bay area to Nevada Las Vegas on a borrowed pick up 6-8 times, took them almost a week . I am so disappointed with him. Risking taking or bringing something here. His wife texted us that when they arrived on Saturday they noticed everything closed up in Reno but they said everything is fine in Las Vegas.

I have no problem turning him in for negligence.
Whole lot of wtf right there. 1st banned? Really lol?
2nd you would snitch on your brother in law?

Construction workers are at lower risk then landscapers. And are at far less risk then grocery store clerk. Over here they are ready to rip this place apart because almost all of the construction guys including helpers are self employed including myself. And are no matter what the governor orders. Everyone is still trying to work the best they can. Fines? F that not guilty see you in court.
Landscapers Lawn and mulch is life sustaining? Car wash is life sustaining? Mulitifamily homes incomplete leaving owners stranded between hotel and their new home non life sustaining? Needing to ask permission to close in your home because the roof is off? Ask the state for permission smdh. Wtf did they buy the permit for. There is a fk ton of bs in all of this. It's getting to be that time.

Btw Dont be a snitch. No body on any side of an issue likes a snitch. You can say dont come by my house. But never be the rat.
 

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Let's bring back @AZHome. It would be interesting to see his point of view.
 

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Whole lot of wtf right there. 1st banned? Really lol?
2nd you would snitch on your brother in law?

Construction workers are at lower risk then landscapers. And are at far less risk then grocery store clerk. Over here they are ready to rip this place apart because almost all of the construction guys including helpers are self employed including myself. And are no matter what the governor orders. Everyone is still trying to work the best they can. Fines? F that not guilty see you in court.
Landscapers Lawn and mulch is life sustaining? Car wash is life sustaining? Mulitifamily homes incomplete leaving owners stranded between hotel and their new home non life sustaining? Needing to ask permission to close in your home because the roof is off? Ask the state for permission smdh. Wtf did they buy the permit for. There is a fk ton of bs in all of this. It's getting to be that time.

Btw Dont be a snitch. No body on any side of an issue likes a snitch. You can say dont come by my house. But never be the rat.
I have no problem in turning a family member who is deliberately being negligent. Especially if they are showing sign of infection.

You can call me a snitch all you want.
 

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Oh, even better - let's see what Camacho has to say!

I do miss that man.
Camacho was hilarious and also offered sound advice when he wasn't joking around. I remember when he got member of the year. Mama, I think you're maybe one of the only people to recieve member of the year and not vanish.
 

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The main issue in CA is that all construction and residential work has been banned. Business owners may be subject to fines. Some landscapers are still working, but only in the back yards. A carpet cleaning van is just too loud and visible to continue working.
In NJ were getting hammered but carpet cleaning is considered a essential business.