I had clean w/a porty. Period.

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I just broke out the ole Mytee 1000 nothing nothing. 2/2stage vac 100 PSI and cleaned as well as fast and used less water, chemical and the carpet will dry in like, an hour... than my TM. :)

Oh...and no heat.

I did pre-scrub with a rake and dwell time as about 7-10 minutes.

This was a 3rd floor condo with no decent access for my TM.
 

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Good to hear! Don't get my wrong, I'd love to have a truck mount in my arsenal, but that just goes to show you that even a porty can do a good job with the right operator.
 

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I love having my TM, but I am trying to figure out how to go back to using a porty full time. I just like the whole idea of using the customers power. I cleaned with a portable for the first year of my biz and I now regret selling it!! Oh well, I will be back!
 

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Having both (for now) allowed me to decide, for ME, which route to take. My situation may be different because of the type of work I do/like/pursue.

IF the property is accessible right from the rear-end of the van and IF I can run hoses straight into the door and IF there are 4 rooms of really dirty carpet or more, then my TM blazes.

But more often I have difficult hose runs/sets because someone has parked where I need to be. Or the unit is 3rd floor or behind the bld...etc.

It takes me just as long to set up either way. The hassle of maintaining the van (tires front end etc) plus the machine is over-the-top for me.

When something breaks down on a TM (like a heat exchange) you gotta unass your wallet.

I will openly admit that the cleaning process itself, once all is set, using a TM is faster. But not by much. And it is not cleaner.

I also want to add here that the unit I did yesterday was rather dirty and needed a buffer. But I used a rake instead and extra dwell time.

I will be so glad when I have sold my TM.

I will upgrade to a slightly larger pump so I can generate a little fast spray time. I am using the porty to run an hydroforce. :) and I will not add heat yet.
 

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Good points Phil,
Those are the exact reasons I choose an electric system. can go either way, leave in the van or bring base unit inside, low cost of operating,and low repair cost.
 

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I'm with you Andy and Phil! I am really thinking of going back to all electric too! Don't get me wrong I love my TM just don't want the smell in my van of a TM. The Savage is really looking good right now, as well as the Nordic. I will keep you guys posted on what I do!
 

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I have come to appreciate the simpler ways of porty use. One full fresh water tank will do 3-4 rooms. I am unsure how effective heat really is for cleaning...outside of speed...so for me, easy call.

I have no need for the bells and whistles of anything bigger just yet.
 

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My plan right now is to save enough to get a 3500 Van and be able to run a powerful porty from my van along the lines of a Titan or Recoil. By then, I'm guessing a year, there will be portables that have even better water lift. I know the savings in gas and overhead cost will be great running just a generator.

A guy I work with is so stubborn!!! He thinks there's no way a porty can keep up with a truckmount but he has no idea how much more powerful porty's have become even though he's impressed by the power of my M5. Hopefully soon...I'll be able to show him!
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Thomas, this line of thinking is curious to me. Allow me to explain why the TM, to me, is more of a pain.

If I am going to run over 100' of hose (which is often) then I have to open the doors, drag out the hose, set up corner guards, drag IN the hose, arrange the hose for use inside....etc. It is not hard but it takes up time.

If I have to do that, I see it easier to simply roll in the porty and set it up inside. Set it next to the john and unroll one-75' hose and go-to-town.

Having a TM and comparing them side-by-side is what allowed me to decide for myself that porty, IMO, is just as easy with lass overhead.

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so I wonder why guy want to set up porties like TM's. Shead some light on this for me so I can see your thinking BEFORE I sell my TM. :)
 

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It's simply one of versatility and convenience Phil. I've followed your line of thinking but there are things that make it easier running a porty from a van:

1. NO popping breakers. Breakers are protection for over heating a circuit so, when you pop a breaker a customer could get antsy about it. Running a generator and KNOWING you have the power relieves that problem.

2. Even though a porty is small, some customers won't like you rolling it into there home. My experience is that percentage is low but you also have the TM as the dominant thinking of customers of how to get a carpet cleaned. Having a porty in a van would alleviate that because the custy simply thinks you're cleaning with a TM...and you are...a TMP (truck mounted portable)...:D

3. Water lines leaking or busting. In a custy's house it could be disastrous. A few weeks back I was cleaning a townhouse apt with my M5. I was upstairs cleaning and a water line gave way. I go down to check on my machine to find water everywhere! Fortunately the apt was a vacant one...but we had to return and rewax the floor since the water leak ruined the wax job.

To me, having a good powerful porty in a van evades those problems.

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Ok. Valid points all. Clearly you have thought this through. I do see value in your plan.

Thanks. I do not disagree on one item. Maybe I will give more thought to my plan.
 

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Thanks:-D

Oh yeah...after that water line break...I went to a stonger hose and double screw clamped the lines. Hopefully with checking those lines daily and the extra clamping, it won't happen again. I also use my auto fill a little differently. I fill and shut the water off, but I override the shut off float so I have more water. The M5 has a large water tank but I believe the float is set to around 5 gals...if you simply hold the float down you can get around 10 gals if you need it. That way the water's not constantly on so i don't have to worry about water running should a line give way;)
 

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Right now I'm using the Mytee 200-120 heater. It does a great job!

When I'm in units/homes that have good hot water I don't use it because I figure if the waters so hot I can't hold my hand under it, it'll clean fine! The M5 water tank doesn't lose temp very fast.
 

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Phil,
I picked up a gently used recoil / little giant combo. I have it rigged up in my van with fill and auto dump hoses ready to go. All I have to is plug in,fire up the LG, run my hoses and go to town. For runs over 100 ft , I can easy unload the machine (it's fairly light) and bring it inside. The heat from the LG is awesome and I have found it to make a difference in ease of cleaning. So far I like this set up very much. and it leaves me with lots of room in my van for my vlm equipment.
 

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I suppose if I intended on CC'ing full time from here on, I'd likely go the route of electric TM such as the one you write about Andy.

I have killer heat with my Boxxer...anymore I just fail to see the need for my purposes. I am phasing out CC'ing soon...or at least phasing out having to rely on it.

I have another business wherein it is hunter-gatherer...which I prefer. :)
 

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Hi Floorguy,
Both the Nordic 1 and the Savage look awesome! I don't see how you can go wrong with either one. Terry is about a 5 hour drive from me, some day I'd like to visit him and go for a test drive.
 

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Ok, so I have a question for you guys who have both a TM and a Porty.

How do your dry times compair to each other? One would think that a porty would have longer dry times given that the vacuum isn't quite as powerful, and I understand that everyone's equipment is different. Still I'd like to hear from the guys who run both. Thanks.