How Long Should You Wait Before Sealing Grout After Cleaning...

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  1. extremecleantn

    extremecleantn Active Member

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    I have a big residential T/G cleaning job coming up, they also want me to seal the grout. Can you seal the grout right after cleaning, or should you wait? I watched a video about it, and they said to wait a couple days before sealing.
     
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    Use a water based sealer, clean it, tight mop it, throw some fans up and start sealing...
     
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    I seal with a water based right after cleaning. My spinner leaves it really dry, by the time I'm done, rolled up and start sealing some of it is already lightening up from drying.
     
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    What kind of Sealer are you going to use? I have used a sealer that you can use on damp grout. Look at Sure Seal USA. If you were to use this product, ventilate the structure while you are applying it. I see you are in TN. Not as Dry this time of year as AZ so Air movers would help. Good Luck.
     
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    This is something that is bugging me too. So far I've taken two T&G classes and when I asked the insructors that question they both said the grout must be dry for at least 24 hours for sealer to actually penetrate and be able to work properly. That means coming back to the job in the next day or two which I doubt most cleaners would be willing to do, so they put on fans and wait for an hour or two and apply their sealer.
     
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    Just like Tron says. I water base seal right after cleaning tile and grout.

    One thing when the tile is nice and clean, customers say wow, but after you seal it, you really get a WOW!

    I use a paint roller. High gloss, unless customer has another preference.

    I try and get a "Darrell Sheets" every tile and grout cleaning job.
     
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    Huh? High gloss with paint roller on ceramic tile? Am I reading that right?
     
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    Works like a charm. Lays flat and looks great. Am I missing something?
     
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    Sealing ceramic tile or any non-porous tile is a nightmare waiting to happen. Looks great for awhile but over time high traffic areas start to wear and actually expose lower stick layers of the sealer. They get dirty and the customer wonders why their floor won't clean.

    I can't tell you how many ceramic jobs I went to that were like this, customer ended up paying $2-3 per foot to get it stripped off.
     
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    I'm interested in what your doing and what your using. It's always been a fact you don't seal ceramic or porcelain tile, nothing really for the sealer to penetrate being non porus. I roll it into the grout joints with a grout sealer tool. If I get some drips on the tile I wipe them up because sometimes you can see them leave a haze. I'm really curious if I could do what your saying and save myself a lot of time!

    Explicit Details please.
     
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    Actually let me expand on this, any type of topical sealer on tile (natural stone included) is a problem waiting to happen...I had to strip countless travertine floors because they were sealed with high gloss finish to give the customer a "polished" finish.

    On floors the only thing that should be sealed is porous surfaces with a penetrating sealer.
     
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    That does look great, but it scares the crap out of me. You have never had someone call back a month later because of unevenness in the finish later from wear?
     
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    Hey Tron, there really no details here. This is the way that I have been doing without any problems I have been aware of.

    It seems that I am doing it wrong per you and 1kaday. I'm not trying to be stubborn here, I just telling you what I'm getting. I go really light with the stuff.

    When I stop and think about what you saying makes sense. I just did a tattoo store the other day and went back. Still looked good. I am going to there and check again. There is a ton of small gravel (next to major highway) so people are tracking it in all day. I'll let you know what I see. I also did this in my own house as well, here are the photos.

    Are you guys telling me I've been HACKING this all along! LOL
     
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    Any of y'all ever use the 'Grout Wand" as an applicator ? Only other time I sealed grout was with the little squeeze bottles that have a foam pad on them. I would hate to do this whole job that way.
     
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    I use a solvent based sealer for grout and stone. Tron and 1K are right on, tile is non porous and will not accept any sealer, it just sits on top and dries and sooner or later it will bite you. Seal the grout only. On stone seal the entire surface using an impregnating (penetrating) sealer that dries clear. Once a sealer dries you should not be able to see it. as soon as you have cleaned the first area start putting fans out and then go to lunch after you are done cleaning and by the time you come back you should be able to start sealing.

    What sealer are you using???
     
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    There are a few different applicators out there, I use a grout stick which is a pvc pipe you fill with sealer and it has a toothbrush on the end and you can walk down each line and seal the grout. You have to watch your flow on it and adjust it a couple times as the stick starts to empty. I actually made my own for about $15, I have one for floors and a smaller hand heald one for countertops.

    Tron uses one with a wheel on it.
     
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    This is the only tool I've found that doesn't make me turn into a green Hulk and start throwing tools at my van.

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    Your not hacking if your end product is a reliable good looking one. That's why I'm fascinated with what your saying here. I'd love to just roll out a sealer and walk. What product are you using?
    I'll try it on my personal kitchen first.
     
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    The Sure Seal is in an a can and you invert it, no need for a wand, and you do not need to wait for the grout to fully dry. This product can be used on fresh grout also. The distributor is in NV and ships fairly quick. I sealed my shower grout with it 2.5 years ago, 2 kids, hard as heck water, grout still beads. It's worth checking out.
     

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