highest cfm/water lift/gpm in a portable?

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whats the highest cfm/water lift/gpm extraction in a portable that can be get for under $3k new or used and the cheaper the better and extraction is all that's needed but it has to be auto dump
 

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A lot of options dude. Don't know if you did a search, but there is a lot of info around here. I am biased to a "certain" machine, but will tell you that Mytee, Cross-American, Eclipse and the Truckforce will probably be your best place to start.

Wait for Locko to chime in, he has a lot of info of porty's.


P.S. Welcome aboard! you came to the right place:bigsmiley:
 

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Thanks Edgar for thinking in positive way about my knowledge with portables.

Sandstormli,

exactly you need to know what do you want to do or waht is your target.
example if your are going to do only commercial carpets i will recommend eclipse tons of power, truckforce is hard to fix, tons of problems.
another good machine is ninja and is really cheap.

if you want there are many ways how to improve the machine if you want to, but how i am telling you, you need to know first your target market, and then you can decide, and i will be more than happy to help you.

eclipse 4/2 vacuum motors series /500 psi $2325 +150 shipping if you want auto pump and auto feed is more money
truckforce 3500 3/2 vac motor series/ 500 psi pump $ 3825 auto pump out/feeding and shipping is included
pelican 4/ 2 vacuum motor paralel / 150 psi $3899 auto pump and auto feed and shipping included
 

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Be careful of using numbers alone to compare the ability of portable (or any machine). Sometimes claims are made according to the theoretical maximum that can be obtained using a certain vacuum. Other manufacturers provide real world numbers that account for the plumbing and other variables.

For example, we have a portable with a vacuum producing a maximum of 198 CFM. When installed in the portable and measured at the vac hose, the real world CFM drops to 118. Maxium lift is 165" but under operating conditions is actually 99".

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Like the other said above; Look first at your needs; what will work for your business.

Take a while to shop around; I am partial to the recoil due to power, long hose reaches, modular capability, and long term reliability.

So look at all the aspects of your needs. My recomendation would be a Recoil XPS 500 psi machine; It can serve as a truck mount or a high power porty; it is slightly over 3k; but well worth the few dollars extra.

Good luck in your decision,

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Thank you all , Locko i thing that eclipse looks the best out off all i have seen yet and it is not crazy expensive, one has 249 lift and one has 340 lift but what cfs or does it even matter? any feedback on them - are they reliable and do they really work that good ? i will be doing mainly residential jobs and for tile i would just use power washer with adjustable psi with rotovac 360 and then just use the eclipse as an extractor with auto dump ( your opinions on that idea appreciated)

( my wife and i hire 2 more people and run a 4 person residential cleaning service and business has bad slow lately and this seems like a good idea to offer carpet and tile cleaning to my current customers about 50 of them and some we do since my mother started this business in 1988( hopefully they will have some friends or at least keep me busy - i am not even dreaming well maybe a little bit about having my own full time carpet cleaning service)
 

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one more thing i actually do apartments so i need to be able to take it with me 3 stories high ( what do you thing 60+ retired people are good customers ? if i do an excellent job will i get references as in how was your luck with those)
 

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for tile and grout will work i did almost the samething, but becareful with this. the autopump out from t he eclipse is 5 gallons per minutes and some power washer use 4 gallons per minutes, so might be too close. you can use a eletectric husky powerwasher i think it is only 2.7 gallons per minute. ohh and the power washer is 100 dollars
 

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Cool i am thinking about karcher hopefully i can find a nice use one its got all options and its all adjustable - hot water cold water steam au to 300 degrees f, hell if i CAN FIND ONE THATS SMALL ENAOUGH I MIGH EVEN USE IT ONE THE CARPET, I WANT TO OFFER MY CUSTOMERS POWERWASHING TOO.


What do you think is the cfm on the eclipse? do you know if theyh are reliable?
 

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Under 3k new is the hard part. If you get a machine in that price range you will not have any heat or pressure. Just a shop vac in a plastic box. Dont forget about PSI and heat which also is just as important in the carpet cleaning process. Our first portable to get our business started came to almost $8000 after all the accessories and chemicals that you have to also buy with it.
 

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this is why i am thinking that for water i will use a karcher pressure washer it has adjustable psi and heat all the way to 300 degrees Fahrenheit and gpm too but whats the efficient water gpm and thats why i am thinking to get best water extractor without caring for psi and heat in it ( thou i am still not sure if this will work and kind of scared of blowing money ...) sure i would love to get a truck mount but current economy is not that good and i think a safer start would be to get a portable system going and offer carpet and tile cleaning for my current customers then maybe one day if things go well...
 

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Remember the bowling ball trick shown on tv; lift can only account for so much water extraction. Without the off setting cfm with that much lift; extraction can stagnate. It is more efficient to have adequate lift; and off set by high cfm than vice versus.

Ever see an air show(Blue Angels or Thunder Birds); Notice the pictures where the vortex vapor is super heated prior to aircraft exceeding the sonic barrier. High air flow at the entry to the air inlet of the engines causes this.

Just as a t/m; high cfm to low/medium lift is what gives them their powerful extraction rates. In your hunt for adequate lift; shop for cfm's. I can appreciate your position; but remember, porties with 1.5 inch plumbing and hoses limit your lift and cfm; as well as length you can run the hose to a job.

I hope this was helpful.
 

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Remember the bowling ball trick shown on tv; lift can only account for so much water extraction. Without the off setting cfm with that much lift; extraction can stagnate. It is more efficient to have adequate lift; and off set by high cfm than vice versus.

Ever see an air show(Blue Angels or Thunder Birds); Notice the pictures where the vortex vapor is super heated prior to aircraft exceeding the sonic barrier. High air flow at the entry to the air inlet of the engines causes this.

Just as a t/m; high cfm to low/medium lift is what gives them their powerful extraction rates. In your hunt for adequate lift; shop for cfm's. I can appreciate your position; but remember, porties with 1.5 inch plumbing and hoses limit your lift and cfm; as well as length you can run the hose to a job.

I hope this was helpful.
Yes thank you, one thing i know nothing is as easy/simple as it seams therefore i am here asking million questions not just buying big numbers - thank you all for all advices/info
 

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Well for the original question I think Recoil is the best Pic. It has perfect balance perfect price if you choose to run 150 +.Or one of the mytee s with a Nordic booster or a savage....
 

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Im also on the Recoil board and they were talking about that a few weeks ago , I ll do some research and 2 double check my answer.
 

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