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Help a new guy out! My truck froze

TylerH

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Day two of having my butler and it was froze solid this morning used a oil heater last night didn’t keep it from freezing it’s a gmc box truck I do not have access to a garage I live in southwest Colorado any pointers on how to keep it warm would be much appreciated new to tmf not sure how all this works or if I am even posting in the right area thank you for your patience.
 

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winterizing it would have been a good idea if you didn't have more than one heater and blankets. You don't necessarily need a garage. A cover helps a lot. Carport.
 

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I only work on weekends right now. Is there a special way to winterize a butler?
 

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Get that heater close to your TM pointing at it, and cover it all with a thick blanket to keep it insulated. You'd think by now someone would have come up with a system just for TM's to keep them from freezing.

It will also help to run RV Antifreeze through the system at the end of the day. That way the lines can't freeze. Frozen lines can lead to some of the most expensive repairs you've ever had to make.
 

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You can easily use a 5 gallon bucket with a 12v or 115v transfer pump and pump RV antifreeze through the system and not need to worry. Just protect wands, sprayers and chems by bringing them inside and drain fresh and waste tanks.

RV antifreeze can be reused, we add extra red food coloring so we can tell when it's mostly back into the bucket, then finish purging on the ground when you are going to put it back in service. Power consumption vs antifreeze price, I think antifreeze is likely more cost effective in your situation.
 

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You can easily use a 5 gallon bucket with a 12v or 115v transfer pump and pump RV antifreeze through the system and not need to worry. Just protect wands, sprayers and chems by bringing them inside and drain fresh and waste tanks.

RV antifreeze can be reused, we add extra red food coloring so we can tell when it's mostly back into the bucket, then finish purging on the ground when you are going to put it back in service. Power consumption vs antifreeze price, I think antifreeze is likely more cost effective in your situation.
This won’t hurt the water softener?
 

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I’ve never had a PTO sush as a butler but aren’t all the components under the “shell” which would prevent a heater from being effective? I’d put a heater in the van to protect the wands, hoses, chemicals, water softener, etc. and then winterize the unit with antifreeze.

I know the butler uses the van engine radiator for heat, I’m not sure if the lines running back and forth to the radiator are part of the vans cooling system with antifreeze in them or how it works. Winterizing will protect that too.
 

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In our box trucks we run two heaters. But now that it was froze you will have some issues. May have leaks now or stress cracks within next 90-180 days.
 

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this is by far my biggest fear when purchasing a tm because I live in ny. I like robs idea with the two heaters just incase one fails the other will get you out of the woods. Also the thermometer inside the van so you can check it without having to go outside or open the doors to save heat. You can also insulate the interior of the van in the winter during the week when you are not using it and the reusable anti freeze is a great idea if all else fails especially if its going to be sitting for a week with only one heater in it.
 

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they have delonghi ceramic heaters that are flat and you can hang or mount in the inside walls of the van. They have an anti freeze setting as well if you want to alternate them.
 

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Butler has winterizing instructions in their owners/operator manual. If you follow those directions, and empty your fresh water tank if your not heating the box, you will be okay. Make sure to bring tools into a warm area also, if your not heating the box. RV antifreeze works the best. Sorry for your hard freeze up! Like rob said above, you can expect issues with the water system for freeze failure. Good luck!!
 
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Dang it, I fell for it again. Watched that to see her not him.
 
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I winterize the system and use an oiled filled heater with thick blankets laying over the TM and hose reel creating a low ceiling with the heater in between. I also have a thermometer sensor located in front of the trailer so i know its good everywhere else. I check the temp right next to my bed everytime i get up to pee. 7° outside 49° inside the trailer.
 

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I winterize the system and use an oiled filled heater with thick blankets laying over the TM and hose reel creating a low ceiling with the heater in between. I also have a thermometer sensor located in front of the trailer so i know its good everywhere else. I check the temp right next to my bed everytime i get up to pee. 7° outside 49° inside the trailer.
Might want add some Flomax.
 

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Would an electric blanket work?
I'm in Florida so not an issue here!
 

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Maybe this is where that guys idea of the electric blanket will come in handy. Not the ones you sleep under. But the industrial ones for heating barrels and curing concrete in freezing temperatures. Maybe just cover the machine itself.

Other wise i wouldnt bother with the space heaters 1500w each. Get at least a 240v shop heater 5000w alone or go to propane fired heater. And insulate. If have not done it yet then insulate. And by propane i mean the rv furnace. It uses outside air as intake and exhaust through the wall. So far less condensation and safer to use.