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H2O2 Fogging to mitigate CoVID19?

StephenPJ

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OK, CoVID19 is here and spreading rapidly. I am wondering who here knows anything about fogging H2O2 (Hydrogen Peroxide) to eliminate CoVid19 and other viruses/bacteria from surfaces in hospitals, buildings, etc?

About a month ago I got an email from the ISSA about a convention with a class by the GBAC (Global Bio-risk Advisory Council) regarding preparation and mitigation of CoVID19. I also watched videos of of the Chinese fogging "something" in their buildings, sidewalks and streets. And I wondered, is there something that could quickly and effectively decontaminate the surfaces in buildings and allow for a quick turnaround time with low risk of damage or injury. It turns out that H2O2 may be just the ticket. It can be as or more effective that chlorine dioxide or Quaternary disinfectants, rooms can be used within an hour after fogging, and it only leaves water and O2 as byproducts, apparently. But how is it done to be truly effective? What concentration of h2o2 is needed? What are the risks? Costs? What PPE is needed? What training is needed? Certifications? Fabric fade/bleaching?

If this really works as it seems, what could it mean for our communities? Our country? Not to say our businesses, which I suspect will be effected in some ways by this. I am also concerned about "professional" cleaners and remediation experts "sanitizing" homes and buildings without a clue what they are doing and putting people at risk in the process.

So, if anyone out there has some good info on the subject, do tell!
 

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Mr. Kelly

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OK, CoVID19 is here and spreading rapidly. I am wondering who here knows anything about fogging H2O2 (Hydrogen Peroxide) to eliminate CoVid19 and other viruses/bacteria from surfaces in hospitals, buildings, etc?

About a month ago I got an email from the ISSA about a convention with a class by the GBAC (Global Bio-risk Advisory Council) regarding preparation and mitigation of CoVID19. I also watched videos of of the Chinese fogging "something" in their buildings, sidewalks and streets. And I wondered, is there something that could quickly and effectively decontaminate the surfaces in buildings and allow for a quick turnaround time with low risk of damage or injury. It turns out that H2O2 may be just the ticket. It can be as or more effective that chlorine dioxide or Quaternary disinfectants, rooms can be used within an hour after fogging, and it only leaves water and O2 as byproducts, apparently. But how is it done to be truly effective? What concentration of h2o2 is needed? What are the risks? Costs? What PPE is needed? What training is needed? Certifications? Fabric fade/bleaching?

If this really works as it seems, what could it mean for our communities? Our country? Not to say our businesses, which I suspect will be effected in some ways by this. I am also concerned about "professional" cleaners and remediation experts "sanitizing" homes and buildings without a clue what they are doing and putting people at risk in the process.

So, if anyone out there has some good info on the subject, do tell!
First go to the new EPA list of disinfectants approved for COVID 19
Make sure you have proper PPE and you can find good instruction on donning and doffing PPE on youtube. Search Donning PPE ebola and you will see some good procedures. You need a pulmonary test to see if your lungs are strong enough for that full face respirator you are going to wear to fog the disinfectant into such a fine particulate that it is not safe for you until it settles and the room clears. Tyvek type coverall under different names have a number for safety such as 10, 20, 50 and so on. Gemplers sales them as well as other supplies. The higher the number the greater protection.

How much do technicians charge per cubic foot and per square foot for odor removal and say crime scene clean-up which is a bio-hazard?

Mold Remediators and Water / Applied Structural Dryers use foggers. I have seen 5 to 9 cents per cubic on one site for fogging for odor. I have seen 34 cents per square foot for an odor product for crime scene clean up. Do you have any insight on other fogging rates for a more dangerous situation like this one?
 
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StephenPJ

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Thank you for that, Mr. Kelly. Interesting...my mentor was a Mr. Kelly (we all just called him Kelly) from Milwaukee, WI. He was an amazing advocate of our industry. Anyway, I am finding that ihp (Ionized hydrogen peroxide) fogging seems to produce the best results, has recently been approved by the Chinese CDC, has a list of other endorsements for use as an anti-virucidal agent, is quicker to set up, do and have rooms ready for use. I will continue to research.
 

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Thank you for that, Mr. Kelly. Interesting...my mentor was a Mr. Kelly (we all just called him Kelly) from Milwaukee, WI. He was an amazing advocate of our industry. Anyway, I am finding that ihp (Ionized hydrogen peroxide) fogging seems to produce the best results, has recently been approved by the Chinese CDC, has a list of other endorsements for use as an anti-virucidal agent, is quicker to set up, do and have rooms ready for use. I will continue to research.
What about steam, I have commercial steam machines , not talking about carpet machines but steam system reaching 250 degrees and wanted to know if coronavirus can be killed or who can I talk to to make sure. I can also use a disinfectant with the machine