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H2odryguy

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I saw him at lunch a couple weeks ago, I gave him a flood yesterday.. He's in the busy carpet cleaning season.
 
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@emeraldclean you don't go into restoration because of hassles with the insurance coverages? Or because your in a small town?
A number on reasons.
1. Don't have the manpower, equipment and all the subtrades that go along with doing restoration ( insurance and adjusters want to write out one cheque and only deal with the general contractor ) not 3-4 different trades
2. Don't want to be on call 24 hours
3. Don't want to reschedule prebooked jobs to get to a WDR job
4. Got a busy personal life ( kids with lots of activities) don't want to change plans because Dad now needs to respond to a WDR job. Or I'm at the lake and get a call saying I got water in my basement.
5. Adjusters will not consider me as a preferred contractor.

In my area Douglas there would be loads of work ( many small towns and a decent population in a 60 mile radius). I'm 30 miles from the city of Winnipeg and this is were the preferred restoration company's are based out of.
In my area all the restoration company's are very established , very hard to crack the market.
I do work ( carpet/ uph / furnace and duct cleaning, ) after fire damage or water for one company that started up about 10 years ago.
Both the guys that own the restoration company worked as job site formans for a big outfit in Wpg before going on their own.
They went out on their own because they knew adjusters would give them work because they knew them personally from over the years in the industry.
 

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So I'm just wondering... is there a reason you guys don't take your personal business into the water fire restoration business? Why get into the franchise.? We have been into it for 17 years now. All bids and quotes come from Cintas national or local insurance company. Just wondering what the franchise offers that you yourself cannot attain.
 
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@emeraldclean makes sense. Lived in St.Norbert for 13 years , I have an idea how difficult that would be. I had a family member in Winnipeg use a restoration company this winter on a commercial property and the company they used had a crew of over 100 employees on staff. I figured the barrier to entry is much different than here in the US.

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I also live in Missoula... I think Will's timing may have missed it too. Since he got into it we haven't had any big water events. If he had gotten into it a year earlier---huge flood season. It may pan out for him in time. A couple of good projects can turn it around quick.
 

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The job you gave Will... was the homeowner using their insurance?
I'm thinking no, this was a uninsured WDR?
I can't give Will all the overflow work I have. He's not set up good to cover the vast majority of what we encounter daily as a restoration company.
 

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I also live in Missoula... I think Will's timing may have missed it too. Since he got into it we haven't had any big water events. If he had gotten into it a year earlier---huge flood season. It may pan out for him in time. A couple of good projects can turn it around quick.
On the contrary Rick.. It's been the busiest water damage, fresh water cat 1 summers I've seen in 10 years here..

You know how the Missoula market runs, it's tough to break into it.
 

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I can't give Will all the overflow work I have. He's not set up good to cover the vast majority of what we encounter daily as a restoration company.
I've been to a few restoration shops to do work from pack outs after a fire damage job ( clean uph/ mattresses etc for them)
They have very impressive shops.
Loads of drying equipment and staff.
 

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On the contrary Rick.. It's been the busiest water damage, fresh water cat 1 summers I've seen in 10 years here..

You know how the Missoula market runs, it's tough to break into it.
Shows how little I know---Glad you are having a great season. Without the high water runoff this year, I would have guessed not that big of a year---obviously I was wrong.
 

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@emeraldclean makes sense. Lived in St.Norbert for 13 years , I have an idea how difficult that would be. I had a family member in Winnipeg use a restoration company this winter on a commercial property and the company they used had a crew of over 100 employees on staff. I figured the barrier to entry is much different than here in the US.

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I do work also for a small restoration company ( they have 2-3 employees).
The son took over from the Dad.
The Dad was originally a carpenter that got into restoration years ago through insurance work.
We do a fair amount of furnace and duct cleaning / carpets/ uph for them
Sometimes we will even just go and extract a flooded carpet( they will rip it out... just like the as much water removed for weight) for them before they arrive with drying equipment .
I'm just a small time O/O with a helper . I prefer being in control
of the jobs I book.
If I choose not to work evenings, weekends etc .. I can.
 
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I do work also for a small restoration company ( they have 2-3 employees).
The son took over from the Dad.
The Dad was originally a carpenter that got into restoration years ago through insurance work.
We do a fair amount of furnace and duct cleaning / carpets/ uph for them
Sometimes we will even just go and extract a flooded carpet( they will rip it out... just like the as much water removed for weight) for them before they arrive with drying equipment .
I'm just a small time O/O with a helper . I prefer being in control
of the jobs I book.
If I choose not to work evenings, weekends etc .. I can.
Makes sense in your case

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Shows how little I know---Glad you are having a great season. Without the high water runoff this year, I would have guessed not that big of a year---obviously I was wrong.
One day soon, let's get lunch
 

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I can't give Will all the overflow work I have. He's not set up good to cover the vast majority of what we encounter daily as a restoration company.
Interesting, I thought that is what he bought into when he purchased a franchise - - what is encountered daily as a restoration company.
 

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So I'm just wondering... is there a reason you guys don't take your personal business into the water fire restoration business? Why get into the franchise.? We have been into it for 17 years now. All bids and quotes come from Cintas national or local insurance company. Just wondering what the franchise offers that you yourself cannot attain.
Depending on the franchise;you can get a better national presence; which is good for attracting some of the bigger insurance companies. Many of the big companies have partnered up with the bigger franchises to offer them "program" work that isn't offered to the smaller companies. Thats not to say a guy can't get work by being an independent, but; it all depends on your market. In my market it is better top be a franchise IMO because there is enough program work to keep one busy.
 

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Depending on the franchise;you can get a better national presence; which is good for attracting some of the bigger insurance companies. Many of the big companies have partnered up with the bigger franchises to offer them "program" work that isn't offered to the smaller companies. Thats not to say a guy can't get work by being an independent, but; it all depends on your market. In my market it is better top be a franchise IMO because there is enough program work to keep one busy.
When I say local.. I'm still talking abt big names. We were fortunate to become fema vendors for Katrina and Rita which opened the door to meeting insurance adjusters..... blah blah. Turning out to be great for us. I do see it for the guy who wants to do it all the time bt dam that stuff can be tough. I'd rather have some interest in all the aspects than be all tied up In one area. To each his own. I think it's more abt where your market location Is.
 

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FRANCHISE IS STUPID. PEOPLE DONT KNOW SERVPRO, 911 RESTORATION TO CHARLIES CARPET CARE. PUT YOUR MONEY IN A BOXTRUCK, WITH A WRAP AND ADVERTISE. YELLOW PAGES, GOOD PAY PER CLICKS AND $1000 PLUMBING REFERRALS UP FRONT AND 30% WHEN THE INSURANCE CHECKS ARRIVE. INDEPENDENT, I CAN CLOSE SHOP CHASE STORMS AND MAKE A MILLION IN 5 WEEKS AND SLAM MOLD FOR 3 MONTHS EVERY OTHER YEAR WHILE YOU RUN AROUND LIKE A CHICKEN DOING CASH FLOODS FOR $500. YOU MAY BE 911 WITH A FRANCHISE BUT IT COMES WITH NOTHING BUT RULES.
BE CREATIVE FLOOD EXPERTS, FLOOD RESCUE, ETC. PAYING FOR 911 RESTORATION IS STUPID.

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