Faster dry times on big TM's?

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mahlonzehr

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I've heard that the big TM's (Everest, Titan etc) can reduce trying times because of stronger vacuum and higher heat. Anybody have any personal experience with this? All other things being equal, Can I actually count on cutting hours off dry times by running an Everest instead of a Blazer?

Would be interested in hearing from someone who has run both...
 

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I used to run a Blazer for about 2 years sold it and bought a ACE 860 equal to an Everest cleaning is better because it can hold the temperature with the Rotovac and the drying is faster with out extra drying passes
 
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A lot of factors come in to play. With a big truck mount you'll get long dry times if the filters are dirty and the pressure is turned up to 700psi, etc. A skilled operator will get great dry times with any properly working machine. A monster truck mount makes it a little easier in some situations. But there are guys here doing amazing things with portables and small truck mounts.
 

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mahlonzehr;

We ran Four different TM's with different blowers at Nick's Bar B Q a few days ago.

We tested a #33, a #36, a #45 and a #47 blower.

With 100' of 2" hose and a 14" Bentley wand, the #45 blower won due to higher lift capability:

Blower Testing Link

Larry
 

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I have Everest 650hp truckmounts as well as a ProChem Peak and M5 with a twin booster. Like Eyeballs said, other variables play a bigger role in dry times than the truckmounts. Throw a few Airpaths on as you clean and it will make a bigger difference than the blower size. Having said this, I get better dry times with the twin booster behind the M5 than without it. As far as the truckmounts go, the biggest advantage of the Everest level truckmounts is the ability to keep up with heat using a high flow rotary tool like an RDM, which is what we use. if using a wand, the Peak puts out all the heat you need. The Everest has a few other advantages such as running two tools and running on low rpm's with power to spare. The question is, is it worth 30k for these advantages?
 
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I have Century 500's and 600's (prochem blazer's and peaks basically), Prochem Apex units, and an Everest. I have used the 500/Blazer and gotten similar dry times as the Everest, it's all in the tech knowing how to use the tool/s they have, and setting them up the right way.

We have gone to 2.5" hose to the door on all of our TM's (we were able to do some easy bolt on parts to most of them, some required some custom work) - but it made a HUGE difference in airflow.

Finding the sweet spot with your jetting respective to your TM

Keeping your trap and filters clean

The little "big" things a lot of cleaners forgo day to day.

Use some airmovers and leap frog them from room to room as you clean, even with our little 500, we sometimes have the first room or two dry before we leave (depending on how big the job is, and the rest darn near it by the time we are gone.
 

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I ran a Steamway Powermatic for about 16 years. The super high heat and above average vacuum certainly did improve my drying times compared to the previous mid range unit I used.

One thing that may not be obvious, with higher heat, you clean faster and use less water especially when cleaning oily or greasy carpets.
 

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Thanks for the input all of you. I do realize that many factor affect the dry times, some being more important than the machines size. Thats why I said "all other things being equal". Several of my competitors in town run 650's but with my small (18 hp) machine I can achieve 2-6 hour dry times fairly easily without airmovers or four to door. I'm thinking I'd like to test the four to the door method.

I read your thread on the blower tests, Larry, found it very informational, thanks.
 

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I tried 4 to the door with my Everest 650hp. It was a waste of time and didn't dry the carpets any faster.
 

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I have Century 500's and 600's (prochem blazer's and peaks basically), Prochem Apex units, and an Everest. I have used the 500/Blazer and gotten similar dry times as the Everest, it's all in the tech knowing how to use the tool/s they have, and setting them up the right way.

We have gone to 2.5" hose to the door on all of our TM's (we were able to do some easy bolt on parts to most of them, some required some custom work) - but it made a HUGE difference in airflow.
What part do I need to convert a Blazer to a 2.5" intake? I guess just cut a larger hole and bold it on?
 

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I have been on both sides of this fence.....I ran the Vortex with a 68 blower...and now I run a Thermal wave with a 59 blower...

the thermal wave can do the exact same thing as far as dry times that I got with the Vortex.......its all in the set up...Balance is the key...



What part do I need to convert a Blazer to a 2.5" intake? I guess just cut a larger hole and bold it on
if you have a filter box....that would be the best place.....

 

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I still run 4td, everyday. I try to stay 25' from the wand. (if it is reasonable with the hose run) If not, then no more than 50'. I also run a much "higher than normal" PSI. I run the original Blueline Thermal wave HP . I couldn't have said it better than Jim, balance is key.

No one has asked the original poster, if he uses "glides" ? I believe that is a part of that balance.
 

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I have an upgraded Legend (25 horse Kohler and a 5 sutor and a little giant 4 coil) and since first seeing the 4 to the door setup here I use it on almost every job. I also took a 50 foot section and cut it into stingers 10, 15, and 25 feet long so I'm not bringing in more hose than I need . Since doing this and adding a glide my dry times have improved drastically.
 

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I tried 4 to the door with my Everest 650hp. It was a waste of time and didn't dry the carpets any faster.

I also run an Everest 650....I run on a 20' foot section on 2" and the rest is 2.5" I GET SUPER FAST DRY TIMES!!!! I also tried 4 to door I Didn't like it....THE EVEREST NEEDS to BREATH....

Where our inlet connection at the box fits the 2.5" hose perfect! no mods...If you want to talk more about our machines give me a call....209-202-1053
 

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I have 1 two inch intake and need 2 two inch intakes for 4 to the door.
You run a legend right? I know a great MOD for better suction...Give me a call 209-202-1053
 

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A lot of factors come in to play. With a big truck mount you'll get long dry times if the filters are dirty and the pressure is turned up to 700psi, etc. A skilled operator will get great dry times with any properly working machine. A monster truck mount makes it a little easier in some situations. But there are guys here doing amazing things with portables and small truck mounts.
Well said..

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