Extremely stinky wool RUG that has been havvily soaked with urin for a long time

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Jun 22, 2017
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This is my first off site area rug cleaning so I can use any help that you guys can kindly extend toward me.

Ive recently picked up 8x10 (80sqf) 50 years old low quality machine made wool rug that is heavily soaked with dogs urine deep inside and all across the rug also this rug is extremely stinky with very very strong urine odor my guess is that this rug has been heavily soaked with urine for at least couple of years without being cleaned other than that the rug material doesn't seems to be delicate and nor sensitive and this rug is definitely not an high quality rug if I were to clean this rug by myself using my Portable extractor and with the help of my Rotovac 360i machine:
  1. what would be the best step by step process for me to clean this rug?
  2. What chemicals would I need to apply and in what way?
  3. Given the fact that this is 8x10 (80sqf) old low quality machine made rug how much you guys think I should charge for this work?
I would highly appreciate any step by step guidance to make sure I get this right.


Many thanks!!!


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Not worth what it would take to clean it, plus being soaked with urine that long there will be color loss when it's cleanef
 

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1) Make a temp pit


2) Then soak it in acetic acid (acid rinse) for 24 hours.


3) Try to get 5.00 sq ft. For training purposes can go 3.00sq ft.
 

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"low quality machine made rug soaked in urine"

- buy new rug
 
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Thanks Rob
Im a rookie so I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge

1) "temp pit" im not sure what you are referring to?


2. if I'm not mistaken Acetic Acid is a Vinegar.
Is that mean that I can use a regular home cooking Vinegar for this purpose?
And if so how much should I deluded it with water?
Other wise, if there is a professionally dedicated Rug cleaning Acid Acetic solution, what is the names of relavent brands if you think that I should use it in order to clean that rug?

3. Do I have to emerse the Rug in a something like a bath that is field with Acetic Acid and maintain it there for 24 hours or so?
Or alternatively can I just soake it with the Acetic Acid by just simply using my extractor/360i to get it soaked for this purpose?

4. Once its soaked with Acetic Acid does it required some form of agitation in order to in hence the process, say with my 360i or any other means?

5. Should I use hot water in this process?

Many Thanks!
 
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1) Make a temp pit


2) Then soak it in acetic acid (acid rinse) for 24 hours.


3) Try to get 5.00 sq ft. For training purposes can go 3.00sq ft.
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Thanks Rob
Im a rookie so I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge

1) "temp pit" im not sure what you are referring to?

2. if I'm not mistaken Acetic Acid is a Vinegar.
Is that mean that I can use a regular home cooking Vinegar for this purpose?
And if so how much should I deluded it with water?
Other wise, if there is a professionally dedicated Rug cleaning Acid Acetic solution, what is the names of relavent brands if you think that I should use it in order to clean that rug?

3. Do I have to emerse the Rug in a something like a bath that is field with Acetic Acid and maintain it there for 24 hours or so?
Or alternatively can I just soake it with the Acetic Acid by just simply using my extractor/360i to get it soaked for this purpose?

4. Once its soaked with Acetic Acid does it required some form of agitation in order to in hence the process, say with my 360i or any other means?

5. Should I use hot water in this process?

Many Thanks!
 

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You can use a tarp and cinder blocks, etc... To make a temporary wash pit. Take a careful look at that rug, it looks like it's hand-knotted. If The Fringe is not sewn on, it most likely is. Soaking the rug for an extended period of time will help remove the urine out of those natural fibers. You're not going to be able to do it in a short of time like a Pit can do it.
 
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1) Make a temp pit


2) Then soak it in acetic acid (acid rinse) for 24 hours.


3) Try to get 5.00 sq ft. For training purposes can go 3.00sq ft.
Im a rookie and im still missing a lot of pieces of the puzzle, so I hope you dont mind me following up with you:

1. Would your answer had changed in terms of the process required, if the rug was soaked with Urine for only couple of month or so but no longer than that?

2. In the case of a higher quality hand made rug does the process that you have suggested still apply?
Or a different method with a different chemicals would be more suitable in the case of a higher quality hand made rug?
 

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Im a rookie and im still missing a lot of pieces of the puzzle, so I hope you dont mind me following up with you:

1. Would your answer had changed in terms of the process required, if the rug was soaked with Urine for only couple of month or so but no longer than that?

2. In the case of a higher quality hand made rug does the process that you have suggested still apply?
Or a different method with a different chemicals would be more suitable in the case of a higher quality hand made rug?
1) Same
2) Yes

No matter what toilet you pee in you still need to flush. Same with rug toilets. Acetic acid breaks up the alkaline urine salts. It takes about 48 hours for urine to go from acid to alkaline. After, I flush. Flush is king.
 

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Rob is got it. this is a hand knotted rug.

go to costco and get 20 gls of vinegar it's like 3 bucks for the two gallon jug.

hose it down with a garden hose a couple of times and extract.
this will rinse away excess of urine sittin' on it.

leave it in the pit soaked in the vinegar at least overnight one full day would be ideal and wash it in the morning.

test for color fastness and always remember that urine will probably make it bleed even if it is not a bleeded so cover your butt.


PS make your pit with a tarp costco 20 bucks for two 15x15's take one of your vacuum hoses and make a circle big enough to cover the rug and throw the tarp then the rug on top
 

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Rob is got it. this is a hand knotted rug.

go to costco and get 20 gls of vinegar it's like 3 bucks for the two gallon jug.

hose it down with a garden hose a couple of times and extract.
this will rinse away excess of urine sittin' on it.

leave it in the pit soaked in the vinegar at least overnight one full day would be ideal and wash it in the morning.

test for color fastness and always remember that urine will probably make it bleed even if it is not a bleeded so cover your butt.


PS make your pit with a tarp costco 20 bucks for two 15x15's take one of your vacuum hoses and make a circle big enough to cover the rug and throw the tarp then the rug on top
Smart idea using a vacuum hose to make a rug pit.
 

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Rob is got it. this is a hand knotted rug.

go to costco and get 20 gls of vinegar it's like 3 bucks for the two gallon jug.

hose it down with a garden hose a couple of times and extract.
this will rinse away excess of urine sittin' on it.

leave it in the pit soaked in the vinegar at least overnight one full day would be ideal and wash it in the morning.

test for color fastness and always remember that urine will probably make it bleed even if it is not a bleeded so cover your butt.


PS make your pit with a tarp costco 20 bucks for two 15x15's take one of your vacuum hoses and make a circle big enough to cover the rug and throw the tarp then the rug on top

Given the fact that you wrote that urine it most likely will cause color bleeding, what is an effective but simple and cost effective method that prevent color bleeding in this case?

I would appreciate if you could be specific with the chemicals required when you outline the specific process. could you refer to both high quality hand knotted rug and a machine made rug when you describe the process and the chemicals required and that would be awesome to learn the difference between the two, if any
 

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Test the rug for the possibility of color bleeding. If the rug may bleed, you will need to be prepared.

Examine the construction. These comments assume a machine woven rug, not a gunned rug.

Remove dry soil, by vacuuming, dusting machine, tumbler, air duster or other process.

If the rug is likely to bleed, apply a solution of Dye-Loc. Follow label directions.

Treat the rug (or just the contaminated areas) with Wool Medic. Treatment may require anywhere from 30 minutes to several hours depending upon how thick the rug pile is and how much urine is present. This would require soaking in a temporary rug washing pit.

Flush the loosened urine and any fugitive colors from the rug. Rinse with lots of water (fire hose is good) and a urine roller or hard plastic squeegee. Continue until no more urine or color is being removed from the rug. Placing the rug on a slanted surface allows the contaminated water to be flushed more easily.

Have additional Dye-Loc mixed in a 5 gallon bucket and ready to apply if needed.

Wash the rug with Wool Perfect.

Rinse with Wool Zone.

Dry with air movement. Drying face down will be helpful.

or bring the rug to the next Hands-on rug washing class and wash it in class under supervision.

Washington DC area Sept 26th-28th. Orlando FL Nov 7th-9th. Several students have paid for the class by charging clients for the rugs they brought.

This should be a $5 to $7 sq. ft. rug when cleaning and urine decontamination are considered.
 
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Take it to a local rug washing plant and pay to have them clean it. From what I know they give carpet cleaners a real good deal. Then you can charge the customer $4 or more per square foot and have made a good profit and not have had to worry about it being messed up. Get some old used nasty rugs of your own with your profit, if you can't find free ones that is, and practice pit washing on your own before you go doing trial and error learning on a customers.
 
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Make sure they are credible though, research them. Also plenty of YouTube videos out there.