Dual Wand or Single Wand poll. Carpet Cleaning. | TruckMount Forums #1 Carpet Cleaning Forums

Dual Wand or Single Wand poll. Carpet Cleaning.

Dual Wand or Single Wand poll. Carpet Cleaning.

  • Single wander

    Votes: 53 81.5%
  • Dual wander

    Votes: 12 18.5%

  • Total voters
    65

rob allen

Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
Sep 5, 2007
35,974
18,314
113
Va.
www.drynclean.com
Real Name
Robert Allen,Jr.
Business Location
United States
I dual wand most jobs. I was wondering if many others do. So I thought a poll would be in order.

Rob
 

tcsdlm

New Member
Jul 29, 2009
268
0
0
Invercargill New Zealand
Real Name
Andrew Ravenscroft
Business Location
New Zealand
Have the Ability to Dual Wand with My TM but never really have had a use for it I can manage fine on my own. So I would say I Single wand Mainly

Andrew
 

ACD

New Member
Jan 12, 2009
325
2
0
Rockland, Maine
Real Name
Aaron Dinsmore
Business Location
United States
I usually work alone for carpet cleaning so I single wand. I have run dual wand on some huge jobs though but usually I'm alone.

Aaron
 

ECOPRO

Well-Known Member
May 11, 2009
1,937
131
63
None
None.com
Real Name
None
Business Location
United States
If I had a truckmount, I would dual wand restraunts, hotels, schools, churches and larger empty homes. Single wand my residential jobs that are more space limited.
 

Mick Ellis

Active Member
Jul 11, 2008
1,667
24
38
Australia
Real Name
M Ellis
Business Location
Australia
Single wander here but sometimes run the wand and the RX when doing restaurants.

Mick
 

Lefty724

Well-Known Member
Oct 21, 2008
4,604
857
113
Salad Bowl, Cali
Real Name
E
Business Location
United States
That's a loaded question (LOL)!!!!

If I had enough work/help, I would dual wand no doubt! With that being said, I would need a truck big enough to carry the big TM, hoses, wand, ect.....(i.e. box truck).

Since I am new to the trade, I will stick to my single wand.
 

Jason Whaley

Super Moderator & TMF Carpet Cleaning Specialist
Nov 13, 2008
4,829
33
48
Durham, North Carolina
www.acarpetcleaning.net
Real Name
Jason Whaley
Business Location
United States
Single wand.... I do have the capability to dual wand and would do so on a commercial but in a residential setting I'm not sure I would. Reason being I would finish the job to quick and I feel the customer would not feel they got their moneys worth.

Say there is 1,000 sq. feet of carpet to be cleaned which I can do with single wand in 1.5 to 2 hours. Now if I dual wand the job it would only take 45 minutes to an hour to complete at a cost of $360.00. I don't want my customers to think I am rushing through the work even though I am not.
 

Bob Savage

Well-Known Member
Mar 6, 2007
1,981
1,220
113
Dayton, OH
www.perfection-carpet.com
Real Name
Bob Savage
Business Location
United States
I have been dual wanding almost EVERY job for 20 years. It allows for so much better production and quality over single wanding.

We dual wand carpet/carpet, upholstery/upholstery, tile/tile, carpet/upholstery/, carpet/tile, tile/upholstery - you name it.

We (my son and myself) have the dual wand thing down pat.
 
Nov 13, 2008
186
0
16
Clarksville,TN
Real Name
Thomas Brennan
Business Location
United States
We dont dual wand carpet, we will for upholstery......When one of the techs set his want down to do spots or something, I always felt like I was losing suction.
 

Bob Savage

Well-Known Member
Mar 6, 2007
1,981
1,220
113
Dayton, OH
www.perfection-carpet.com
Real Name
Bob Savage
Business Location
United States
ThomasRestoration said:
We dont dual wand carpet, we will for upholstery......When one of the techs set his want down to do spots or something, I always felt like I was losing suction.
What Thomas mentioned does happen to many dual wand setups, where when one tech sets down a tool, and the other tech can notice a vacuum loss.

A true dual wand machine has to be designed to not compromise vacuum, pressure/flow, and heat, when changing from single wand cleaning, to dual wand cleaning.

IOW, when you are dual wanding, you should not be able to tell there is another person connected to the same machine, who is also cleaning and experiencing the heat, pressure, and vacuum he is used to cleaning with when running a single wand.
 

Bob Savage

Well-Known Member
Mar 6, 2007
1,981
1,220
113
Dayton, OH
www.perfection-carpet.com
Real Name
Bob Savage
Business Location
United States
Jason said:
Single wand.... I do have the capability to dual wand and would do so on a commercial but in a residential setting I'm not sure I would. Reason being I would finish the job to quick and I feel the customer would not feel they got their moneys worth.
I used to think the same thing when we first started dual wanding, but truth be told, it's just the opposite of them thinking that.

When you dual wand, you literally cut the cleaning area in half for each technician. That single observation by each tech, that there is only half of this job he/she needs to do, is always a GOOD thing.

So, that gives each tech more time while at the job to concentrate on cleaning only their portion of the job.

This factor alone allows EACH tech to work more thoroughly on only their portion of the job.

If the customer ever has any concerns about it being too quick of a job, I explain how 2 wands are more efficient in cleaning, and the customer is actually getting the benefit because more man hours means more service has been rendered.
 

carpetcarepro

Member
Sep 28, 2008
117
10
18
Michigan
www.zipperwand.com
Real Name
Erik Hiltz
Business Location
United States
80% of our work is commercial. We make long pulls,with 2 man crews the wand never stops. Jobs over 10,000 sq. ft. 2 trucks 4 guys. Works for us. We run high flow, it's hard to keep the temp. over 200 dual wanding. In homes if cleaning carpet and furn. we dual wand
 

Bob Savage

Well-Known Member
Mar 6, 2007
1,981
1,220
113
Dayton, OH
www.perfection-carpet.com
Real Name
Bob Savage
Business Location
United States
Erik said:
80% of our work is commercial. We make long pulls,with 2 man crews the wand never stops. Jobs over 10,000 sq. ft. 2 trucks 4 guys. Works for us. We run high flow, it's hard to keep the temp. over 200 dual wanding. In homes if cleaning carpet and furn. we dual wand
A lot of truckmounts will not be able to sustain high heat when dual wanding. That's why we have used LP for our TM heating source for over 20 years.

We can easily maintain 240º at each wand when cleaning, which gives us great production rates, whether small or large jobs.

Our LP heater is 220,000 BTU with enhancements to be stingy on propane use. You can also add a smaller LP heater as a post heater if you would like to have more heat.
 

Steve Jr.

Member
Oct 21, 2008
398
4
18
47
Brookville, Ohio
Real Name
Steve Aponyi
Business Location
United States
Single for us, only machine we ever had that could dual wand was a bruin2 well they said it could run 2 wands, never did work well.
 

rob allen

Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
Sep 5, 2007
35,974
18,314
113
Va.
www.drynclean.com
Real Name
Robert Allen,Jr.
Business Location
United States
Once you have dual wanded it is hard to go back. Any more voters?
 
Aug 18, 2009
114
5
18
Real Name
Douglas Perez
Business Location
United States
Tried dual wand on a cds 4.0, where the pressure worked just fine but the vacumm power was effected alot. so we just use it for pre-spraying areas ahead so the wand is always moving on commercial jobs
 

timstanton

Member
May 10, 2011
67
2
8
WI
Real Name
Tim Stanton
Business Location
United States
I tried Dual wand last week on my CDS 4.8, I had a splitter on the vacuum hose, that didn't work real well, especially when one wand wasn't being used. When I brought more hose out and had both draw straight from the vacuum box it was almost like using single wand for the vacuum.