Design your ultimate Portable

Rick Imby

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My ultimate Portable

I believe that the ultimate portable would truly be portable. Built to fit in the trunk of a Honda Civic or any small car with fold down seatbacks. Mini size Max performance.

First off dual 3 stage vacs.
500 psi pump.
auto feed
Auto dump.
2" waste tank opening necked down to 1.5"
25 feet of 1.5" hose--very llittle difference in performance between 1.5 and 2" at only 25 feet.

5 gallon waste/5 gallon fresh tank for use as a spotter without hooking up apo/autofeed.

This along with a Koblenz or a small buffer will match or beat the perfomance of any porty out there.

Vacuum, wand, chems, 4 50 foot sections of water hose allow you to go 125 feet from water source. All this will easily pack into a econo car.

This machine works as the ultimate Truckmount backup because it does not take up much space, works as a spotter, Upholstery machine, you could easily adapt it to be a booster also.


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That kind of sounds like you described the Rotovac CFX 360i system all you would need to add is a pump.Then you wouldn't need the buffer either.That system is truely amazing. IMO

From what I have read is that the CFX with 2/3 stage vacs has the power of a small TM if you only run 25 ft of hose.I think alot of it has to do with the small recovery tank. this system is light years ahead of the competition.

I can't wait to see the full review from Rob Allen since he just bought about everything rotovac has.

This is a very exciting time to be in the market for a portable carpet cleaning machine.
 

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Nice choice Rick!

If I was building my ultimate portable, it would be basically on the same platform of the RV CFX.

2-3 stage vacs w/extra 2 stage or booster
500 psi pump
auto dump
auto fill
integrated heating system (hardest part IMO)
2-25' vacuum/solution lines=50' max
nifty cart to bring everything in--on 1 trip
 

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You could get a pump like the one Bob Savages sells ($850) that has chemical feed and propane heat and keep the heater and pump in the truck and then just bring in the cfx as your vac unit and APO.

Or you could just leave the CFX in the truck and use a vac booster like the one Mytee sells.You would still have a 2 cord Machine J/K

I think you could run the CFX and pump on one cord then the vac booster on another.

How long before someone starts calling the CFX a TM, lol

I think you can use the cfx as a vac booster w/ APO also. that is a pretty cool little machine that they came up with.
 

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My ultimate portable would have 3 - 3 stage vacs, 500psi pump, auto fill and pump out, 10 gal feed and recovery tanks and would weigh about 70 pounds. It would come with 100 ft of 2" hose and solution line but the kicker is it would work off only 2 - 115 vac at 15 amps.

I had a job today where I did a wet vac and had to haul my Mytee M5 up a flight of stairs. The M-5 weighs 160lbs. At 55 years old that was a HAUL...but I got the job done! Love that M-5... it's a work horse...but heavy up the stairs :D
 

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Not to be negative, But you should not go to custy house in a honda civic. Where is the professionalism. Sounds like a newby with a idea..... I have just made the ultimate the porty. Recoil III with fresh water 55 gallon 2 inch hose through out 2 inch barb little giant hose reel with 250 feet of hose a vac booster. Next phase is to get recoil high violosity 158 inch lift vac motors.
 

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Not to be negative, But you should not go to custy house in a honda civic. Where is the professionalism. Sounds like a newby with a idea..... I have just made the ultimate the porty. Recoil III with fresh water 55 gallon 2 inch hose through out 2 inch barb little giant hose reel with 250 feet of hose a vac booster. Next phase is to get recoil high violosity 158 inch lift vac motors.
First of all...I went up the stairs to the apartment and the machine operated outside. Second there's "no one size fits all" when you deal with customers except your ethics generally. Some customers don't mind my machine in their home at all but generally it's their choice to bring it in. I always tell my customers the machine is loud but usually they prefer I bring it in. The last two custy's I had watched me work and THEY WERE IMPRESSED!

Most of my work at this time is done in vacant apartments but let me lay this one on you....Last night I got a wet vac call. When I got to the customers home I told her I would leave the machine outside...she PREFERRED I bring it in. I did so. I took care of the wet vac, treated the area with Milban and finished just in time to see Apolo Ohno win silver at skating. After that I left. GREAT CUSTY TOO!!!

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Not to be negative, But you should not go to custy house in a honda civic. Where is the professionalism. Sounds like a newby with a idea..... I have just made the ultimate the porty. Recoil III with fresh water 55 gallon 2 inch hose through out 2 inch barb little giant hose reel with 250 feet of hose a vac booster. Next phase is to get recoil high violosity 158 inch lift vac motors.
I have seen a lot of carpet cleaners driving POS vans with Sh*t all over the inside of their rigs that would not rate very high in your professional scale. Kinda funny because the Professional scale probably does not directly relate to the quality of the cleaning.

I bet the dual 3 stage CFX ($1700) with 25 feet of 1.5" hose which is really close to what I described has significantly better performance at the carpet (where it counts) than your 150-250 foot CA with booster. How much are you in your setup so far? $7,000 or did you buy New at $9,000?

I like the idea of 3-3 stage and a 500 psi pump on two 15 amps. and only 70 lbs. If you eliminate the tanks--not needed with apo/autofill. The magic would be getting 3800 watts on two 15 amp circuits good luck with that..

But Eric you are correct---I am just a newbie with an idea or two. No offense taken.
 

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I have really been thinking about the CFX porty and think it is the closest to the ultimate porty. I think with a nice pump and a way to have constant hot water, you can really have a good setup!
 

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My idea:

A unit with a 16 gal. solution / wast tank
1,200 psi pump, adjustable pressure.
Wheels and handle.
Wight is less then 65 lbs.

This is the kicker
A 3 stage 13.5 amp motor in a housing that can hook on to the wast tank. There is no inner pluming on main unit. just 3 2" ports that have a advanced filter system and water level cut off.
You would have 3 custom ports on the main units wast tank where you can add / up grade up to 3 independent motors.
Or you can use the motors in a series, 2 motors connected to each other using one port.

This machine can be up graded to as many as 6 motors (3) in parallel or 4,5, to 6 in 3 x 2 parallel / series.

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Not to be negative, But you should not go to custy house in a honda civic. Where is the professionalism. Sounds like a newby with a idea...
Howard P. started out of the trunk of his car and now he is one of the most successful cleaners in our industry running more than 12 trucks I think.....

My brother started his landscape business out of an RX-7 with a hitch and trailer.... He now grosses between 400K & 500K per year now with two dump trucks a brand new $50,000 GM truck, three or four trailers and thousands in equipment....

You have to start somewhere. We all had this "idea" when we decided to take the plunge. Some didn't have the options others do!
 

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RX-7 lol
My first carpet cleaning auto, I took the passenger set out of my Mazda and placed a portable.
 

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Not to be negative, But you should not go to custy house in a honda civic. Where is the professionalism. Sounds like a newby with a idea..... I have just made the ultimate the porty. Recoil III with fresh water 55 gallon 2 inch hose through out 2 inch barb little giant hose reel with 250 feet of hose a vac booster. Next phase is to get recoil high violosity 158 inch lift vac motors.
Erik, I thought you were referring to me in your post. But I see now you were referring to the OP. Anyhow my response is how I do my business. Sorry I misunderstood your post. :)
 
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IMO the ultimate portable is already built. You guys have just not recognized that fact yet. lol.
 

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Jaime;

I have always been wanting to ask the following question and since you brought it up, I will ask you:

I'm just curious, respectfully, "What real value would a video provide?" I ask for this reason: 1. You can not see or feel how dry a carpet is after cleaning; 2. You can not feel or appreciate the vac performance--at various distances; 3. You can not appreciate the service of the machine, or seller. 4. And, the people doing the video can easily dummy it to indicate exactly what they want to appear, among other reasons.

Unless, you are asking for a detailed visual account of how a machine is engineered, manufactured, and their other performance secrets which the majority of Manufacturers (with the small exception of those cloners selling on price and do not really care only because volume is the name of the game in their humble opinion) hold dearly because of the amount of efforts and money that goes into the development of products these days. The exact same way, reasons, and principle that most every Professional Carpet Cleaner does not expose their own small secrets to their competition. (I also used to be in the cleaning business myself, btw).

I can understand only because it might be fun to do,perhaps, a general over-view; however, because our Industry is an "aging industry", most everyone can see equipment on the internet, can speak to users across the country/world; can ask the sales people (and decifer between the sugar-coating & realitiy/common-sense) ;can visualize how much a 5 gallon tank will hold, what a 100 ...500 ....1200 psi pump..1-2-3-4-5-6 vacuums; 2-3 stages; a 12" wand' 1 1/2"-2" vacuum hoses...etc.

I don't think I am smarter than anyone else, perhaps a little more experienced than some only because I have been in this Industry for so long, but, am I missing something? And, I ask respectfully without the intention of shooting arrows at each other here either.

Isn't the proven history & reputation of any product/company/employees/etc of greater importance than a staged performance?

My son got married and ordered a diamond ring over the internet from a great reputable older and proven firm. He saw the picture on their web page; read about it; did his research and used some common-sense. On Valentine's day, that ring shined and looked beautiful on the brides finger...............and was solid --not fools gold!

Thanks, Jaime, you are a real "proven" Pro ; just asking a reasonable question, but thank you for kindly reading my experience above.

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Ed,
An video or MOVIE can be altered to make anyone or thing look great or the best. I can "rig" an CFM gauge to my Recoil or Mytee or Ninga to have it read whatever I want. If the gauge is not calibrated correctly what good is it? Reliability,Customer Service ,Proven Performance and being AMERICA MADE is why I bought my Recoil.
I know I'm new to this game but Videos of b4 and after Carpets being cleaned are questionable in my mind (easily rigged).Too bad I feel this way but there a lot untrustworthy souls out there.
Yet if they want an video of your product I believe you should produce one IMO.