I'm cleaning a church right now and tomorrow. Probably 50-100 coffee stains. None of them will budge, they just get a bit lighter. I presrayed black label with unchained didn't touch em. I sprayed one with Harvard chemical Java jinx, and have tried stain magic on a few and they've sat for a few hours. Don't really see any difference. Possible they're just permanent? I don't have any other chems to try and I'd like something I could just put in a pump up sprayer and leave sitting because I can't spend another entire day just working on the stains. Any advice? Or just consider them permanent? Thanks!