Client refused cleaning over political view

[PistolPete]

abortion is a non issue. the media gets people stirred up about it but no republican with any sanity wants to actually overturn roe, they may tell the public they do but they don't. if they did red states would by miles suffer the worst. middle class women and above simply would go to the west coast to have one. that traps the poor and uneducated into having kids they can't afford. welfare and prison costs 15yrs down the road would be substantially higher and you also have the more well to do people in those states who will be looking for an exit when the culture goes to hell. if conservatives are so concerned with life perhaps we should start with all the kids who are alive today with no families. do that and people may take the argument more seriously. anyone else do jobs at foster homes? i've seen the look in the eyes of unwanted kids. i've seen drug babies. let's start with who's alive before we start legislating what women can do with their bodies

remember all overturning roe would do is put it back to a states rights issue. it would also be a massive blow to the trust of the judicial system. i'm not even sure when the last SC decision was overturned. hasn't been one in my lifetime

ps you're being a tribal warrior saying "fabricate in relation to testimony" here's why. if you believe that testimony is not enough for a conviction i want to see you on the sidewalk protesting why 90% of sex offenders are in prison because most all of them are zero evidence all testimony. you think there is hard evidence when someone says my priest, coach, teacher touched me 20 years ago?

Abortion is very much an issue.
The left is literally freaking out over the possibility of Roe Vs Wade getting overturned if came before the court again.
I despise the argument that we should take care of those who are alive today and by aborting babies we're making things better.

Pregnancy is not a disease, you're not a victim, you made choices.
So the argument is you're better off dead than to be raised unwanted, or drug addicted, abused etc.

Perhaps, but you don't get to make that decision.
At the moment of conception there is a flash of light and a human life has begun.

We have sacrificed 60 million babies on the alter of sexual immorality and inconvenience.

May God have mercy on us.

 

[racebum]

Abortion is very much an issue.
The left is literally freaking out over the possibility of Roe Vs Wade getting overturned if came before the court again.
I despise the argument that we should take care of those who are alive today and by aborting babies we're making things better.

Pregnancy is not a disease, you're not a victim, you made choices.
So the argument is you're better off dead than to be raised unwanted, or drug addicted, abused etc.

Perhaps, but you don't get to make that decision.
At the moment of conception there is a flash of light and a human life has begun.

We have sacrificed 60 million babies on the alter of sexual immorality and inconvenience.

May God have mercy on us.

Completely respect your belief. All I ask is that you reconsider despising the argument that we should take care of those who are already here.

If you truly care about life. There are thousands upon thousands of kids with no parents and little chance in life. They need all the help they can get.

 

[Allied]

Could you please cut and paste a comment I have made in support of communism? I will be the first to apologize


Did it ever Dawn on some of you that I may have skimmed This Thread and found a strong conservative bias and argued the left viewpoint just to see what kind of replies came forth. The thread was originally about not talking politics at work which would be a very good idea for the majority. Unless someone aligns with you politically you would be driving off business with the kind of replies that I'm getting. Is it really worth it?

Every single time you support the commie left you are supporting the ideals that communism is based on. Period.

 

[Allied]

I posted a link to a JFK speech where he calls out the deep state by name and not a peep out any of you commies about it. He warned us of the deep state 57 years ago. Again we are living through history...possibly the end of our Republic.

 

[Allied]

My guess is most of you do not have the vocabulary to even begin to understand what he was warning us about.

 

[Allied]

That speech was given 100 days into his presidency. He then proceeded to begin to act against that deep state. One of ways he did so was to begin the procees of moving us away from the federal reserve currency. Bam...bullet to the head.

 

[racebum]

Every single time you support the commie left you are supporting the ideals that communism is based on. Period.

I like JFK. He resonates with me. I wish we had more people like that running for office.

However the main talking points on the left are healthcare for every citizen and education past 12th grade that is government-funded. How exactly is this communism? You could argue with socialism but at the same time we have socialism in K through 12 with primary education. We have socialism with the police and the national parks. We have socialism with Social Security. I don't think anyone except maybe the very far left is arguing for a truly socialist economy. The problem we face with education as we have to import a lot of people from around the world to fill jobs that we don't have a population trained to do. A lot of people don't want to go in debt for six figures just to maybe get a job. When you get down to it the government wastes a lot of money on a lot of projects. What's wrong with investing in the citizens? Didn't Trump even mention setting up more trade school programs? Let's hold him to that

If the conservative party ever actually became conservative they may have an argument but they are not libertarian and they are not small government people. They want to spend just as much as the Democrats or more, just in different places

If you support moving away from the Federal Reserve, well do you own any Bitcoin? Support a decentralized independent monetary system. That project Grew from virtually nothing into what it is today because of people who want to have a decentralized monetary system

Bitcoin.org is probably one of the more substantial projects I have seen in my life. Decentralized money is indeed growing. Parabolically really. Since it began in 2009 adoption has continually grown. Quite a few roadblocks along the way but more and more people are getting involved in an actual decentralized hard money


Lastly if you want to talk about deep state conspiracy theories. I'll tell you what mine is. Division. It's beyond peculiar that the country is divided right down the middle. No other country on Earth has a political system with a 50/50 split. The media uses talking points to keep people divided. They play on cultural bias. They play on fear. They tell you that whichever party you belong to, well there are these other guys who want to take everything away from you. You need to dislike them. You need to hate them. That's the other half of the country. Divide and conquer

 

[MikeGaure]

I suppose you can say it is true that the Republicans did not attempt to character assassinate judge Garland. They just chose not to even give him a chance at all. I'll just quote a quick summary of that

1. The latest Republican maneuver went far, far beyond any earlier Senate declaration. What they said was that because Obama was in opposing party, they would deliberately lock the president out of the process entirely, hoping to elect another president, though Obama had almost a year to go.
2. Another thing that was absolutely unprecedented was that the Republican Senate would not even give Obama’s appointment the dignity of having hearings to consider him.

The question I keep asking myself is we have a country roughly divided 50/50 which by itself is a bit suspect. More to my point though, if things continue the way they are they are just becoming more dysfunctional as each side especially people who are far on their perspective side just dig in their heels. That a world you want for your kids and grandkids?

Could you even imagine the quality of leadership we could get if people would stop bickering over practically everything and unite behind common issues. The country divided keeps us weak.

Hell I would be happy if the majority of people could talk about issues and not personalize them. just stick to the facts and have a back-and-forth. No name calling, no belittling

there wont ever be any type of utopian unity simply too many views and AGENDAS

 

[PistolPete]

Completely respect your belief. All I ask is that you reconsider despising the argument that we should take care of those who are already here.

If you truly care about life. There are thousands upon thousands of kids with no parents and little chance in life. They need all the help they can get.

What I despise is the assumption that pro life folk aren't involved in foster care or orphanage support, or child advocating.

What I despise is the argument that by killing babies we are somehow reducing the drain on resources upstream by preventing new foster kids, or criminals from being born.

So why stop at unborn? What about the "useless" to society in other ways, mentally handicapped, elderly and infirm?
Why not forcibly sterilize the undesirables?
Who makes that decision?

We should just kill them all for the benefit of society or is it just the unborn?

A death culture is what we have become.

 

[racebum]

What I despise is the assumption that pro life folk aren't involved in foster care or orphanage support, or child advocating.

What I despise is the argument that by killing babies we are somehow reducing the drain on resources upstream by preventing new foster kids, or criminals from being born.

So why stop at unborn? What about the "useless" to society in other ways, mentally handicapped, elderly and infirm?
Why not forcibly sterilize the undesirables?
Who makes that decision?

We should just kill them all for the benefit of society or is it just the unborn?

A death culture is what we have become.

I'm sure you're aware of the other Viewpoint is just allowing women to have control of their own bodies. That's really all I'm going to say about that. The main thing I wanted to point out is what you said about death culture. I think you're right and it shows among the living. People don't really value other people, especially other people they don't know. There is a general lack of empathy in society. Back when a lot of us were kids we all knew our neighbors. There was a more communal feeling. Now and most cities no one has any idea who their neighbors are. People are very untrusting. The helicopter mom syndrome is everywhere. On the one hand I think kids today are becoming more intelligent overall. On the other they are missing a lot of experiences and growing up in a fearful divided Society.

I just think abortion in general is kind of a dead debate because people are never ever ever going to all agree on it. The most you can do is just respect the other person's feelings

 

[racebum]

there wont ever be any type of utopian unity simply too many views and AGENDAS

Pretty much. It's all about the agenda and those agendas help shape the viewpoints.

I still try to promote positivity over negativity though. If I meet someone and he believes differently than I do. Not a big deal. He's still a person and I still treat him with respect

 

[Allied]

I like JFK. He resonates with me. I wish we had more people like that running for office.

However the main talking points on the left are healthcare for every citizen and education past 12th grade that is government-funded. How exactly is this communism? You could argue with socialism but at the same time we have socialism in K through 12 with primary education. We have socialism with the police and the national parks. We have socialism with Social Security. I don't think anyone except maybe the very far left is arguing for a truly socialist economy. The problem we face with education as we have to import a lot of people from around the world to fill jobs that we don't have a population trained to do. A lot of people don't want to go in debt for six figures just to maybe get a job. When you get down to it the government wastes a lot of money on a lot of projects. What's wrong with investing in the citizens? Didn't Trump even mention setting up more trade school programs? Let's hold him to that

If the conservative party ever actually became conservative they may have an argument but they are not libertarian and they are not small government people. They want to spend just as much as the Democrats or more, just in different places

If you support moving away from the Federal Reserve, well do you own any Bitcoin? Support a decentralized independent monetary system. That project Grew from virtually nothing into what it is today because of people who want to have a decentralized monetary system

Bitcoin.org is probably one of the more substantial projects I have seen in my life. Decentralized money is indeed growing. Parabolically really. Since it began in 2009 adoption has continually grown. Quite a few roadblocks along the way but more and more people are getting involved in an actual decentralized hard money


Lastly if you want to talk about deep state conspiracy theories. I'll tell you what mine is. Division. It's beyond peculiar that the country is divided right down the middle. No other country on Earth has a political system with a 50/50 split. The media uses talking points to keep people divided. They play on cultural bias. They play on fear. They tell you that whichever party you belong to, well there are these other guys who want to take everything away from you. You need to dislike them. You need to hate them. That's the other half of the country. Divide and conquer

No offense, but the fact that you think there are two parties is cute.

Annnnd...You didn't friggin even begin to grasp what JFK was really telling us. Which part of the following was the hardest for you to understand?

HE FARGIN WARNED US ABOUT THE SWAMP!

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.

It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."

 

[Allied]

And he caught three to the head for it...back and to the left, back and to the left.

 

[ACP]

I hate to say it but there are some that should be sterilized.

I cant say that I support abortion but I can say that I live in a big city and if you had ANY clue how many hooker/drug addict/homeless babies would be running around you might think a bit differently.

If your from a small town that doesnt have a MASSIVE homeless and drug addict problem like Seattle does then you probably cant grasp the situation we deal with. IT would probably change your view.

Our city is literally out of control from overly liberal politicians that keep throwing money at our heroin/homeless problems. Homelessness doubled in Seattle since last summer, our streets are lined with "encampments"

literally the trash is out of control, needles everywhere etc

OH and these people like to reproduce...

 

[Mama Fen]

This whole thread is exactly why politics don't belong in the workplace, any more than religion does. Any discussion of those topics winds up in an argument where each side is more interested in being right than in listening to the other.

Funny how the things about which we are the most passionate can bring out the worst in us sometimes.

My approach is to keep politics and faith out of the job completely. My mother used to make the most wonderful, non-committal noise through her nose - a kind of "hmm" sound that was neither challenging nor encouraging, the non-verbal equivalent of "indeed" or "oh really". It was a fantastic way to get the point across that the conversation had taken an unwanted turn and it was time to switch subjects, without making any commentary on the subject at hand or offending the speaker.

I've started using that sound.

 

[Allied]

I hate to say it but there are some that should be sterilized.

I cant say that I support abortion but I can say that I live in a big city and if you had ANY clue how many hooker/drug addict/homeless babies would be running around you might think a bit differently.

If your from a small town that doesnt have a MASSIVE homeless and drug addict problem like Seattle does then you probably cant grasp the situation we deal with. IT would probably change your view.

Our city is literally out of control from overly liberal politicians that keep throwing money at our heroin/homeless problems. Homelessness doubled in Seattle since last summer, our streets are lined with "encampments"

literally the trash is out of control, needles everywhere etc

OH and these people like to reproduce...

Commies have that city running just how they like it. Their policies are the cause of the current state of most big cities.

 

[Allied]

This whole thread is exactly why politics don't belong in the workplace, any more than religion does. Any discussion of those topics winds up in an argument where each side is more interested in being right than in listening to the other.

Funny how the things about which we are the most passionate can bring out the worst in us sometimes.

My approach is to keep politics and faith out of the job completely. My mother used to make the most wonderful, non-committal noise through her nose - a kind of "hmm" sound that was neither challenging nor encouraging, the non-verbal equivalent of "indeed" or "oh really". It was a fantastic way to get the point across that the conversation had taken an unwanted turn and it was time to switch subjects, without making any commentary on the subject at hand or offending the speaker.

I've started using that sound.

Oh yeah...just what we need. More people to remain quiet in the face of communist running this country into shit-hole-ness.

 

[Mama Fen]

Oh yeah...just what we need. More people to remain quiet in the face of communist running this country into shit-hole-ness.

That's right, because yelling in each other's faces and calling each other names works so much better.

I will get more done on my own time, quietly and from my own home, to make the changes I want to see in my country than I will arguing with customers.

 

[SRD]

Glad to see you posting again @mamafen i miss your intelligent imput on things

 

[Allied]

That's right, because yelling in each other's faces and calling each other names works so much better.

I will get more done on my own time, quietly and from my own home, to make the changes I want to see in my country than I will arguing with customers.

Yeah...because all of us here are getting into shouting matches with our customers.