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I am currently using a prochem ultrapac as my go to prespray. Can I mix powerburst with it, for an extra boost on the nasty residential jobs? Or can I use it full strength on residential jobs?
 

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I am currently using a prochem ultrapac as my go to prespray. Can I mix powerburst with it, for an extra boost on the nasty residential jobs? Or can I use it full strength on residential jobs?
I have not used that particular prespray before so I'm not going to comment on mixing others with it. One thing I will say is you should look into having 3 or 4 different presprays on your truck as different carpets will need different solutions.

At the very least you really should have:

A 9-10 pH prespray for residential nylon carpets such as your Prochem Ultrapac.

A higher pH cleaner for Residential Polyesters and CGD.

A good Olefin Prespray which is also good for polyesters and CGD

A prespray for wool and other natural fibers.
 

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If you need to boost a prespray, you need to actually consider changing your prespray.
I agree. Over the last year I have changed some of the presprays I use and I don't boost any of them anymore. Once you figure out which prespray for which carpet things become a lot easier.
 

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Thanks Todd for the info. I do have a separate pre spray for just about everything, I was just looking to see if it would pay to add a "booster" to my regular pre spray when it would normally do the job, but just add a little extra to a job that was a little more nasty.

Good point pinosan!!
 

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I am pretty sure those two things have been mixed before. But think about it. You're mixing a mid level ps with a high impact ps. Why? Skip the mixing and go right at it with the higher powered stuff. Presprays don't necessarily compliment each other but they don't often cancel each other out in any way either.

Like Tod said you need a daily type cleaner, ultrapc is a good one for that and you need a high impact grungy carpet preapray and powerburst is a good one for that. Why would you want to mix them? You will not get just a little bit better if you go mostly ultrapac and a little powerburst. Do yourself a favor and if you need powerburst then just use it and skip the u.p..

With that said if you need/want to boost a ps then hit it with a "booster" i.e. citrus-solvent, oxy booster like all of the manufacturers have now or even Energy that CTI makes. That way you can add a little or a lot and get the level of boosting you need/want. And you can boost the heavy/high impact ps you like for when it is really, really bad.
 

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I use powerburst as my normal every day prespray. Does a good job, if i have oily or greasy job i add desolve all citric to it, for my worst case scenario it is pro's choice firestorm+desolve all extracted with a rotary.

Just dont think the u.p. is necessary
 

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I use powerburst as my normal every day prespray. Does a good job, if i have oily or greasy job i add desolve all citric to it, for my worst case scenario it is pro's choice firestorm+desolve all extracted with a rotary.

Just dont think the u.p. is necessary
Be careful using such a high pH product all the time, it will eventually come back and bite you. Power Burst will also void any manufacturer warrantee on 5th generation nylon carpet.

I just tried Firestorm last week on a couple commercial jobs, that stuff works really good.
 
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Be careful using such a high pH product all the time, it will eventually come back and bite you. Power Burst will also void any manufacturer warrantee on 5th generation nylon carpet.

I just tried Firestorm last week on a couple commercial jobs, that stuff works really good.
What i found to be the secret to firestorm is dwell time. I let it sit for at least 15 minutes before i start cleaning. Its great stuff
 
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What i found to be the secret to firestorm is dwell time. I let it sit for at least 15 minutes before i start cleaning. Its great stuff
Yeah, we cleaned a restaurant last week where their carpet was absolutely black and Firestorm cleaned it with one pass of the wand. Looked like new when we were done.
 
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I am currently using a prochem ultrapac as my go to prespray. Can I mix powerburst with it, for an extra boost on the nasty residential jobs? Or can I use it full strength on residential jobs?
Quit using such a weak ass pre spray lol
 
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Bridgepoint but you can use similar products.
Like citrus force asd...
 

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Love powerburst but wish they could make it smell better.
 

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I am currently using a prochem ultrapac as my go to prespray. Can I mix powerburst with it, for an extra boost on the nasty residential jobs? Or can I use it full strength on residential jobs?
Ultrapac/Grand slam is a decent prespray. If you come across a really nasty house you want a pre treatment that's at least a pH of 12. With heavy soil the stain resistance is gone along with their warranty so you're just trying to make it liveable at that point.

Try using just power burst, and boost it with a little solvent.
 
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the problem is sometimes different carpets clean better, i have tried in the same carpets and I found a really good mixture, that at least work for me.
i won a couple of contracts, competing with other 2 companies and i id a lot better.
24 to 30 oz of grand slam (same as ultrapac) in 3 gallons of pump sprayer, and 1 scoop of high oh from kleen rite, that thin kleen rite is great.
you must use a acid rinse of course, but how i said, I won a couple of contracts like that, when they tell me they will have more people giving estimates, i tell them why don't you ask a free demo from each company, then they say ok, then i ask for the very worst area, and BOOOM, they love it, when they see the other cleaners, forget it, in their mind my impact is better, and second, I know i can do a great job.
 

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If you need to boost a prespray, you need to actually consider changing your prespray.
I agree for the most part except when your boosting with something for light odors or something to brighten.