CFX 2 or 3 stage?

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I am looking to compare CFX's to other machines. What is a comparable difference between the 2 and 3 stages on the CFX? The three stage is an extra $400 list.
 

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From what I know, both models have 200 CFM, but the dual 3 stage vac has 10" Mercury Lift/140" Water Lift. The dual 3 stage has dual power cords as well. The dual 2-stage has only 1 electrical cord.
 

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I've gone from a dual 2 stage machine to modifying that same machine to have dual 3 stages. The extra lift is amazing compared to the old set up.

If the CFX was arrange in series, it would make as big of a difference. But because the motors are set up in parallel, get as much lift as you can, I'd go with the 3 stage set up.
 

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I have the dual two stage model. It functions well as an emergency back-up. If I were cleaning with it every day I would definitely want the dual three stage unit. Don't worry about the extra $400, you'll make so much money with whatever machine you choose that it won't matter in hindsight.
 

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I have the olfer 2 stage and I hve no problem
with the lift. either one IMO will work great!
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Might as well go with the 3 stage model. The extra $$ will be worth it in the long run.
 

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My issue is the extra cord. How many amps are the cord drawing? I'd also have to throw in 6 amps for the 360i also.

Then perhaps whatever amps for the docking station if the situation warrants the 250psi, or the amp for a water pump for tile and grout.

Somone posted that there is an extra 10 " water lift int he 2-3 stage? Is that significant? I think from 130 to 140.
 

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My issue is the extra cord. How many amps are the cord drawing? I'd also have to throw in 6 amps for the 360i also.

Then perhaps whatever amps for the docking station if the situation warrants the 250psi, or the amp for a water pump for tile and grout.

Somone posted that there is an extra 10 " water lift int he 2-3 stage? Is that significant? I think from 130 to 140.
Generally you'll see a 30-40" increase when it comes to the difference of 2 vs 3 stage vac motors. I'm not sure about the specs on the 2 stagers that are in the CFX, but I'm very doubtful that they would be able to produce 130" of lift, most 2 stage vac motors are somewhere around 100". Anything more than that and they would draw way more amps than you could put on one cord.
 

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I found the post, the poster said the 2-3 stage is 140" of lift. So - if that a significant difference from 105? I am just used to using my used portable, and I am not sure what it is actually lifting right now.

And do you know if the CFX requires all stages to be engaged if I need to shut down the last stage because of amps being drawn by other items?
 

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My issue is the extra cord. How many amps are the cord drawing? I'd also have to throw in 6 amps for the 360i also.

Then perhaps whatever amps for the docking station if the situation warrants the 250psi, or the amp for a water pump for tile and grout.

Somone posted that there is an extra 10 " water lift int he 2-3 stage? Is that significant? I think from 130 to 140.
You can run both cords - separate circuits - and the 360i w/no issues according to the dudes at Rotovac. If I recall, the dual 3-stage draws 10/15 per and the 360i is at 6 amps.
 

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As Damon states, the dual 3 stage vac model CFX is 1 cord - 1 vac motor = 10 or so amps, 2nd cord - 1 vac motor + pump = 15 or so amps. That would imply that the 360 could be powered by the same circuit as the lower power draw cord on the CFX.
 

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I found the post, the poster said the 2-3 stage is 140" of lift. So - if that a significant difference from 105? I am just used to using my used portable, and I am not sure what it is actually lifting right now.

And do you know if the CFX requires all stages to be engaged if I need to shut down the last stage because of amps being drawn by other items?
An extra 30-40" of lift is huge. Not only does the carpet dry faster, but you would amazed at how much dirtier the water is that you full out of the carpet.
 

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You will blow more fuses with the single two 2 stage single cord than you will with the dual cord model. You will need a 20 amp circuit for the the 2-2 stage but each of the 2-3 stage will easily run on a 15 amp circuit. Does a 300 horse Ford mustang run better than a 220 horse? You will notice the difference in a heartbeat. With the small waterbox the cfx 2/2 will have more vac than your current porty unless your current model is a dual cord. I am assuming it is not because you are worried about running about dual cords now. I have never heard of anyone that was running a dual cord porty going back to a single cord porty. The performance difference is too much.

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On both the 2-2 stage model and 2-3 stage models you can turn on 1 or both vacs, plus the pump independently. Checkout the pic.

 

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On both the 2-2 stage model and 2-3 stage models you can turn on 1 or both vacs, plus the pump independently. Checkout the pic.
D'oh! I should have seen that myself, thanks! I know one would want two vac's no matter what - but sometimes I have been in old places and the 15 amp breakers are not really 15 amps anymore.
 

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On both the 2-2 stage model and 2-3 stage models you can turn on 1 or both vacs, plus the pump independently. Checkout the pic.

That photo of the CFX is a beauty. Makes my eyes watery with so much love. I want to make it my wall paper. :)

I have a job tomorrow on a second floor apartment with no stairs! The pod and 360i would have been perfect!
 

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Hey guys I just started my business and i ordered a CFX. Im mainly focusing on commercial business when the business is closed but I will not turn away from residential customers. Any CFX users ever get a negative feedback from their custys about dumping in toilet?

Thanks!