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Butler Systen Bogging Down

Discussion in 'General Carpet Cleaning & Upholstery Discussion' started by ftgjr1969, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. ftgjr1969

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    I have a 2001 Butler System that is bogging down in RPM's, more than normal, when I put a load on the vacuum and pump. It goes back to the normal speed, after I release the trigger.

    I checked the belts and they are all good. The pulleys seem to be moving freely, as well

    What else should I be checking?
     
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    It can't hurt to change the blower belts. Even if they look fine they can slip. If that's not it, they will make a good emergency spare set.
     
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    Thanks. I will change the belts under the shroud. I just replaced the v-belts, a month ago.
     
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    Like Art said belts could be it. Either in engine or on blower side

    Also your tensioner could be going out

    Or check if your clutch is slipping
     
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    I see a few Butler problem threads on the boards from time to time and they make me wonder if the Butler owner is having difficulty getting phone service from Butler? I mean seriously, you would thing Butler would be the first place to call with a problem associated with their rigs.

    Does their phone service suck or something?
     
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    I don't think that's the case. Probably more like the lonely Maytag repair man. :)
     
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    How's your TCS holding up Marty? You've had it a few years now. I know the Butler, like my WM 1200, will go years and years without even touching the machine. If the motor conks out I take it to the auto repair center by my house.
     
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    If the belts are fine then i would call tech support.
     
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    I am not willing to derail this thread, Art.

    You are a very rude man.
     
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    How many hours? I know on my old Butler I replaced the main drive pulley. It had become worn, and the belts were not riding correctly. I forget how I knew to check that, but on inspecting them the belts not in the correct place on the pulleys. The one I replaced was the double one bolted to the engine crank.
     
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    I spoke with Butler, on Friday and the said it could be the main drive pulley. The belts do look like they might be sitting low in there.

    I just put on a fresh set of belts on the blower & pump (the other ones looked almost new). That didn't help. There is some squeaking under the the hood. All the pulleys there seem to be moving freely and I just changed those recently.

    Is the main pulley drive something I have to get from Butler or is that something I can get anywhere?
     
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    Just to clarify, is the machine bogging down, or the actually truck?

    If you cup the hose/use the pump and the actual truck engine bogs down, that sounds like something to do with the vacuum system that runs to the engine. Do you know what I mean. Those two vacuum controllers in the engine compartment?

    I wonder if you have a hole in the vacuum control tubes...

    But yea, I always just call butler in this situation. I call butler if I need to figure out the simplest things.
     
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    I think you may need to get it From Butler. It is, I believe, a double pulley. By the time you run one down somewhere else you could probabaly already have it.
    It's been a while since I had to do it.
     
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    When you call Butler ask to talk with Bruce, He will take the time to listen and and really try to help.
    I'm like Jaymark, any time I have a question or if I'm unsure about something I just give them a call.
     
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    Yep, me too, and I don't even have a Butler:p
     
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    So , how is his advice on love!@!!:D
     
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