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Jul 28, 2009
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guys im having trouble with my butler system, it wont start its making a click.. noise in the pump whem i turn the swicth to extraction mode. at first it was running perfect in just shut off by itself any tip will help.

Thank you
 
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TheEyeball

#2
Full dump tank?

Can you better describe what's happening? So the machine is running in cleaning mode, then when you turn the pump off for extract only mode the entire machine shuts off?
 

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Is there one of those turkey thermometer looking breakers on the front panel? If so give it a push. I have a hydramaster that does this once and awhile when it gets really hot.
 

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the clicking noise is normal, its 3 or 4 rapid clicks in a row.

Something is keeping it from starting.

I would check all fuses, I would move the truck a foot, and re-engage the parking break just to make sure thats on, then try again.

Sometimes if this happens to me I have to pull the three big fuses behind the gauge panel.

I will be away but you can call me any time at the number on my website if you need more help

Jay
 

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Full dump tank?

Can you better describe what's happening? So the machine is running in cleaning mode, then when you turn the pump off for extract only mode the entire machine shuts off?

LOL fuel dump tank indeed... how many times did I sit there for a few minutes wondering why my machine wouldn't start...then D'oh! Dump tank was full...
 
Jul 28, 2009
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Lasthanson Aristhyl
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United States
#6
check out the fuse none of them went out, i didnt check out the waste think but tomorrow i will, its old butler in 1987 Gmc it wont even start in cleaning mode or extraction mode. Jay if I have any question I"ll give you buzz..

Thanks guys
 

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check out the fuse none of them went out, i didnt check out the waste think but tomorrow i will, its old butler in 1987 Gmc it wont even start in cleaning mode or extraction mode. Jay if I have any question I"ll give you buzz..

Thanks guys
Sounds electrical. That old, it is hard to tell if someone re-did things.
What about your clutch. Check it's wiring.
Under the hood , at the end of the unit driveshaft; inspect the connections. Could be that the clutch is bad as well.
Is there a main fuse somewhere? I've got an older unit. There is a regular auto fuse 20 or 25 amp. wired into the system right up next to the battery and fire wall. But if you are hearing a "click" when you hit the engage rocker switch it seem like the unit is energized. Back to the clutch maybe?
 
Jul 28, 2009
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FL, fort myers
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Lasthanson Aristhyl
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United States
#8
I called butler they told me it might be some electrical problem, he told me I need an electrical expert so he can tell him how to do it, one thing i see now is when turn my switch in my van the RPM gage move up to 500 rpm. it never use to do when it was starting at first , that's strange .
 
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TheEyeball

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Dude check the dump tank. That is always the first step. It's like making sure your toaster is plugged in when you try to figure out why it's not toasting your everything bagel.
 

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Dude check the dump tank. That is always the first step. It's like making sure your toaster is plugged in when you try to figure out why it's not toasting your everything bagel.
LOL
 
Jul 28, 2009
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Ok thanks eyeball , im at work at the moment when I get home tomorrow I'll check it out.i do this part time work in coca caola full time, ill check it out when i get home tomorrow.Hopefully I get good result, I'll keep your posted

Thanks again guys.
 

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I called butler they told me it might be some electrical problem, he told me I need an electrical expert so he can tell him how to do it, one thing i see now is when turn my switch in my van the RPM gage move up to 500 rpm. it never use to do when it was starting at first , that's strange .
If you hit the engage switch and the unit starts , but is very low RPMs . Check the vacuum pods. They are connected to the engine via a couple of simple chains. When you engage the unit, vacuum from the blower gets to the pods via a vacuum hose. When it is very clammy/rainy cool; mine sometimes stick. I just rap them and the engine ramps up.