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I've been tempted to do that but always assumed I should give prespray dwell time before agitation

On most jobs it's fine to shower feed.

On heavy grease though you should allow dwell time before agitation. This allows the treatment to break the "surface tension" of the soil first (not really the right word but I think it makes my point) which then allows it to break away from the floor it was stuck too more easily.

Otherwise you would need to spend more time scrubbing to eat away layer after layer. It's possible but more time consuming. (This usually is a restaurant type of thing where the grease is too thick)

Again you can always just shower feed, but in some situations it is faster to allow dwell time then agitate
 

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On most jobs it's fine to shower feed.

On heavy grease though you should allow dwell time before agitation. This allows the treatment to break the "surface tension" of the soil first (not really the right word but I think it makes my point) which then allows it to break away from the floor it was stuck too more easily.

Otherwise you would need to spend more time scrubbing to eat away layer after layer. It's possible but more time consuming. (This usually is a restaurant type of thing where the grease is too thick)

Again you can always just shower feed, but in some situations it is faster to allow dwell time then agitate
 
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On most jobs it's fine to shower feed.

On heavy grease though you should allow dwell time before agitation. This allows the treatment to break the "surface tension" of the soil first (not really the right word but I think it makes my point) which then allows it to break away from the floor it was stuck too more easily.

Otherwise you would need to spend more time scrubbing to eat away layer after layer. It's possible but more time consuming. (This usually is a restaurant type of thing where the grease is too thick)

Again you can always just shower feed, but in some situations it is faster to allow dwell time then agitate
Joe the beauty of agitating along with shower feed is that the solution gets all thruout the fibers as opposed to sitting on top and penetrating slowly. When it does dwell it dwells thoroughly. When I did T&G, I would apply solution,Scrub, (breaking up soil load) reapply then Dwell. Same principle with carpet.
 
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Joe the beauty of agitating along with shower feed is that the solution gets all thruout the fibers as opposed to sitting on top and penetrating slowly. When it does dwell it dwells thoroughly. When I did T&G, I would apply solution,Scrub, (breaking up soil load) reapply then Dwell. Same principle with carpet.
I'm not new to cleaning but I'm new to shower feeding...
I've pre sprayed and agitated with every product and machine out there...
This is by far the best method I've tried
 
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I'm not new to cleaning but I'm new to shower feeding...
I've pre sprayed and agitated with every product and machine out there...
This is by far the best method I've tried
Yeah it's a Real Quality Booster. Did it for many years and never met a carpet I couldn't get clean. I used bucket heaters to get the prespray smokin' Hot..Helped a lot. Only downside is easy to overwet if not careful.
 

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Yeah it's a Real Quality Booster. Did it for many years and never met a carpet I couldn't get clean. I used bucket heaters to get the prespray smokin' Hot..Helped a lot. Only downside is easy to overwet if not careful.
I'm not tryna do it for light soil but man, it's been impressive on filthy carpet.
One thing that I think makes a difference is rinsing with a rotary.
It flushes the alkali out really well especially using AFD.
Of course using 6 airmovers makes a big dent in the moisture
 
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Lol well it is and kind of isn't.

On VERY THICK soil (usually in a restaurant) it WILL be faster to dwell then agitate (then I would usually dwell again) because of just how thick the soil is.

That applies to basically none of your jobs though mike.

On 90% of all jobs this will not apply. And it applies more to hard surfaces than carpet. since carpet isn't rigid the surface of the soil isn't as solid as soil caked into a hard surface
 

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Lol well it is and kind of isn't.

On VERY THICK soil (usually in a restaurant) it WILL be faster to dwell then agitate (then I would usually dwell again) because of just how thick the soil is.

That applies to basically none of your jobs though mike.

On 90% of all jobs this will not apply. And it applies more to hard surfaces than carpet. since carpet isn't rigid the surface of the soil isn't as solid as soil caked into a hard surface
I'm not saying dwell time isn't relevant but I'm starting to see that it's not as relevant as agitation and the means in which you apply your chem.

I continue to experiment and learn in this industry and I feel like I've been learning some shit I took for granted lately
 

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Lol well it is and kind of isn't.

On VERY THICK soil (usually in a restaurant) it WILL be faster to dwell then agitate (then I would usually dwell again) because of just how thick the soil is.

That applies to basically none of your jobs though mike.

On 90% of all jobs this will not apply. And it applies more to hard surfaces than carpet. since carpet isn't rigid the surface of the soil isn't as solid as soil caked into a hard surface
This tile was filthy.
I applied the product with no dwell time and scrubbed.
Watch what happens
 

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I'm not saying dwell time isn't relevant but I'm starting to see that it's not as relevant as agitation and the means in which you apply your chem.

I continue to experiment and learn in this industry and I feel like I've been learning some shit I took for granted lately

You are right. And I have only had two jobs where I couldn't shower feed and agitate and needed that dwell time first.

An epoxy garage floor for an auto shop, and kitchen tile in a restaurant.

It's just an important note. If you are trying to shower feed and scrub and it's just not working, let it dwell a minute or two then scrub and that'll take care of it.
 

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You are right. And I have only had two jobs where I couldn't shower feed and agitate and needed that dwell time first.

An epoxy garage floor for an auto shop, and kitchen tile in a restaurant.

It's just an important note. If you are trying to shower feed and scrub and it's just not working, let it dwell a minute or two then scrub and that'll take care of it.

That being said, I love to shower feed! Especially through the Cimex.

I think I mentioned this before but toss a shut off valve on the hose coming off your 175 tank.

It will allow you to easily control your moisture levels. And make encapping amazing. You can go super low moisture and get some crazy fast dry times.

I did a job where I got 6-800 square feet per gallon of encap and the job came out real nice, dried super fast also. That was with a multiibrush with a bonnet in the middle. The fact that the bonnet stayed wet and lubricated I think helped out there as well.
 

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This tile was filthy.
I applied the product with no dwell time and scrubbed.
Watch what happens
I always just spray, let dwell, then use the Hoss to extract. I've never thought of using a shower feed, then rotary extracting! That's what I call a 1-2 punch!

I'll have to try that sometime. When you shower feed, I'm assuming you use a carpet brush on your 175 right?

Also, is that a Camelbak your wearing in the video? Hydrating while working?

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Was expecting blood on the floor

Not Mike whining again :D


Working with a flood guy who also does crime scene cleanup

He sent me a pic of a bloody floor, didn't know bout posting though
 

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I always just spray, let dwell, then use the Hoss to extract. I've never thought of using a shower feed, then rotary extracting! That's what I call a 1-2 punch!

I'll have to try that sometime. When you shower feed, I'm assuming you use a carpet brush on your 175 right?

Also, is that a Camelbak your wearing in the video? Hydrating while working?

Sent from my Galaxy Note 5
I use my nylon or pad mostly but I just picked up a vegetable brush that kicks ass on cut pile CGD that's greasy...

Yea, I use my camelback for water.
When I start working, I don't stop for beaks , even to drink.
The camelback insures that I always stay hydrated
 

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Was expecting blood on the floor

Not Mike whining again :D


Working with a flood guy who also does crime scene cleanup

He sent me a pic of a bloody floor, didn't know bout posting though
I've done a murder suicide cleaning, attempted suicide, gunshot, stabbing...
Never any kind of fun...
The murder/suicide was the worst
 

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Coming along...cleaning a bank in SF tonight, first physical therapy session tomorrow morning...more physical therapy tomorrow night..touch up on a city hall over in the east bay...
Changed my diet. Cut out coffee, most dairy, wheat, most sugar, eating more salads and I'm dropping weight fast..16 lbs in the last 30 days. Lots of cabbage every day....leaning out. I smell Irish when I fart! Corned beef....lol! The accident was a wake up call to get fit again. Got two big commercial jobs booked next week. Will have help on both of them. I'm cleaned left handed tonight...right arm's still in a sling. Using the Trinity Freedom....I can push it one handed....can't do that as well with a rotary and onboard sprayer unless I move the controls to the the left side.

Walking 4-6 miles a day....can't ride my bike yet....and taking lots of magnesium daily in a chelated form....gonna get my heart back in rhythm than I can really cook again. Most guys like me with atrial fibrillation go out of sinus rhythm at age 50. Coffee steals magnesium from the body. I've started roasting coffee in 1996 and drank a couple liters of coffee a day since then....my heart went out of rhythm in 1997..... Never made the correlation. Great website for those of you in atrial fib: afibber.org. Lots of info about health, diet and interesting correlations most folks including me until recently have never considered.
 
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