Bio break VS Flex

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I'm talking 3 or 4 scoops in a HF which will dilute it further. It still comes out with a white froth and kicks any nasty stains or peee peee out of the house.
I understand, I use a HF also. The first time I tried it I used 5 scoops and liked it much better than Ultrapac, the next time I used 3 scoops and it still did an awesome job.
 
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I put a scoop of boost all in for white carpets and tile master if it is really dirty.
 

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looks like everybody likes biobreak with citrus, I used that, but i wasnt very happy. I always get some traffic lines, and that is why i use ultrapac or preload or grand slam.
That's my concern. I've tried other pre sprays in the past and nothing has worked better then ultra PAC boosted with citrus and enzyme
 

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looks like everybody likes biobreak with citrus, I used that, but i wasnt very happy. I always get some traffic lines, and that is why i use ultrapac or preload or grand slam.
I was not find of bio break. Mix it in sometimes because it is green and looks pretty. I use half scoop of tile. Master
 

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Thats about 170 oz per scoop. Is that for a rat nasty or a regular cleaning???
What are you talking about? I thought one scoop was 2 ounces. 2 ouncesx6scoops is 12 ounces per gallon
 

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After reading this thread I am either using way too little chem or way too much in my HF.
I just followed the directions on the back, which told me to put 6 scoops in my hydroforce at 8:1. I havn't really experimented yet, but after reading this, I'm gonna start reducing and take yall's word. Yall TMFers havn't let me down yet:)
 

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What are you talking about? I thought one scoop was 2 ounces. 2 ouncesx6scoops is 12 ounces per gallon
Well if you spray it at 8:1 then your not making 1 gallon with 6 scoops, your making 8. Now do the math. It comes out to about 170 oz of spray onto carpet for every 2 oz of chem (one scoop) used.
 

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There might be some confusion going on here with people using pump ups or electric sprayers compared to injection sprayers that dilute. I've always used injection sprayers with the 1:9 default dilution. Anyways has anyone compared Biobreak with Powermax?
 

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There might be some confusion going on here with people using pump ups or electric sprayers compared to injection sprayers that dilute. I've always used injection sprayers with the 1:9 default dilution. Anyways has anyone compared Biobreak with Powermax?
I have they seem to be pretty close in the way they clean and the chemicals used. I do like that bio break mixes very easy.
 

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Well if you spray it at 8:1 then your not making 1 gallon with 6 scoops, your making 8. Now do the math. It comes out to about 170 oz of spray onto carpet for every 2 oz of chem (one scoop) used.
Here's the direction to mix it up on the side of the container

• For heavy soil, mix 3 oz. Bio Break in 1 gallon hot water.
• For moderate to heavy soil, mix 1 to 2 oz. Bio Break to 1 gallon hot water.

For use in the HYDRO-FORCE injection sprayer, mix 12 oz. Bio Break in 5 quarts hot water.

I took that as 6 scoops in my hydroforce and set it at 8:1. I think you're looking at it differently than I am
 

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I've been pleased with UltraPac, Power Strike and also some others, but I am needing some more, so I will give some consideration to try some others. You learn something new every day...
 

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Flex with citrus all the way. Today I finally used my rotovac360i.
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I haven't tried either of these cleaners yet. I want to order them both and see which is the best.

What is your guys opinion on the best pre spray out there?
I have used both products. I started using Ultra Pac when I was doing residential but when I went to apartment work I found that the ultra and the Flex didn't give me good results on the apartment carpet, so I tried Traffic Slam and was hooked, I have now been using it for several years and buy it by the pail. I have recently tried the bio break and have had mixed results. It is totally awesome on upholstery, for that reason only I will keep it. It has not worked very well on moderate to heavy soiled apartments, It did work amazingly well on a place where they never wear shoes and eat only in the kitchen. It also has worked pretty well in Restaurants. This has lead me to believe that it will only do well in situations where natural (plant/animal/human) grease/oil is the main form of soil, but for petrochemical grease it has a hard time making a dent. So I would carry Bio Break for some things and another prespray for when petrochemicals are a main concern.
 

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I have used both products. I started using Ultra Pac when I was doing residential but when I went to apartment work I found that the ultra and the Flex didn't give me good results on the apartment carpet, so I tried Traffic Slam and was hooked, I have now been using it for several years and buy it by the pail. I have recently tried the bio break and have had mixed results. It is totally awesome on upholstery, for that reason only I will keep it. It has not worked very well on moderate to heavy soiled apartments, It did work amazingly well on a place where they never wear shoes and eat only in the kitchen. It also has worked pretty well in Restaurants. This has lead me to believe that it will only do well in situations where natural (plant/animal/human) grease/oil is the main form of soil, but for petrochemical grease it has a hard time making a dent. So I would carry Bio Break for some things and another prespray for when petrochemicals are a main concern.
Would you say traffic slam is better then ultra PAC at traffic lane removal. I can't seem to find something that works better. For apartment s and nasty carpets I use 2 scoops power burst mixed with 6 oz citrus solv and 8 oz ultra PAC per gallon In a pump up. It's the best mix I've found. But the cost is killing me. Trying to find alternative products that work just as good or better and more cost effective.
 

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Would you say traffic slam is better then ultra PAC at traffic lane removal. I can't seem to find something that works better. For apartment s and nasty carpets I use 2 scoops power burst mixed with 6 oz citrus solv and 8 oz ultra PAC per gallon In a pump up. It's the best mix I've found. But the cost is killing me. Trying to find alternative products that work just as good or better and more cost effective.
Wow that's a lot of chemical
 

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Flex with citrus solv should work good on apartments and nasties. you might have to mess around with the dilution ratio to find what works for you