Best Residential Encap

[cooleyjn]

What everyones thoughts on using Oreck orbiter with green brush for agitation? Can it damage carpets? Iv'e heard mixed opinions.

 

[george8585]

You sound like you have used most to everything. Do you know if Mercury is a good brand? Saw this on craigslist and looking to get my start with VLM. Only 175 I see for sale so far is a Mercury Lo Boy 175 and its 3 hours to it. I could maybe get it for 400 though.

Will try to barter him down for the 175. But don't want to end up with that if it's too violent like you were describing

Mercury 175 should be ok

I doubt a 175 would be too violent but what size is it

20'' is big and would be difficult to use on most occupied residential

And what condition is the 175 in

You don't want to take a beat up dirty 175 into a paying customers house

 

[george8585]

What everyones thoughts on using Oreck orbiter with green brush for agitation? Can it damage carpets? Iv'e heard mixed opinions.

Green brush would be ok for some carpet but too stiff for others

You need a black brush and green brush

 

[Parks]

Mercury 175 should be ok

I doubt a 175 would be too violent but what size is it

20'' is big and would be difficult to use on most occupied residential

And what condition is the 175 in

You don't want to take a beat up dirty 175 into a paying customers house

Ohh. So is a trinity freedom not a 175 then? Still learning but that makes sense. The 175 I'm looking at seems clean. I've been trying to get a 175 asap, but can't get anybody on Craigslist to respond. Might just have to order a new one. I'll be going 17" and will pick up a 13" oreck orbiter for stairs or I might do the step son like you have/ pick up a pad attachment for a drill until I can get one

 

[george8585]

Trinity Freedom was a OP Machine.


Bonnet Pro makes the best cotton bonnets for 175's

19'' works best for 17''

www.bonnetpro.com

 

[Parks]

Mercury 175 should be ok

I doubt a 175 would be too violent but what size is it

20'' is big and would be difficult to use on most occupied residential

And what condition is the 175 in

You don't want to take a beat up dirty 175 into a paying customers house

I ended up getting a 17" Mercury off Craigslist. Don't think it was ever used, guy said his apartment couldn't run it well without throwing switches and that's all he got it for.

What's your agitation pad and extracting bonnet of choice now? I ended up starting with carpet details as chem. Your thread is a gold mine of information for VLM.

 

[Parks]

Or if you got a brush attachment recommendation I'm all ears

 

[george8585]

Had some Commercial Carpet Cleaning fun today

Did this Women's Clothing Store. Small store with wood floors and building was built in 1855

Second time cleaning this store. First time was in 2017

Not a job for Phoenix or Whittaker Trio

So I used my 13'' Hawk 175-300 with Bonnet Pro Ironman Cotton Bonnets and Whittaker Crystal Dry Encap

I scrubbed with Bonnet Pro's Multi Brush System with a fiber pad first and it did a really good job before extracting with Ironman Bonnets

These are the before pictures. Store had a lot of spots throughout store

I forgot to take after pictures but the carpet looked beautiful when I was done

I love the Whittaker Encaps for Commercial Carpet Cleaning. Green Certified, Odorless, and they CLEAN !!!

 

[george8585]

Or if you got a brush attachment recommendation I'm all ears

I like a brush for scrubbing residential carpet before extracting with a Bonnet Pro Ironman Cotton Bonnet




Here is the brush I use for residential. I've had that brush for over 10 years but I forgot where I bought it or what it's called.

Most of the weight from the 175 sits on the round plastic center piece and not on the brushes

Or you could get the Bonnet Pro Multi Brush System for your 17''. You can use a Fiber pad or Cotton Bonnet with it

I'm not sure but I think Multi Brush is made for 17''

I have a riser on the Multi Brush so it can be used with my 13'' Hawk.

www.bonnetpro.com




A 175 leaves bad swirl marks in residential carpet and some commercial carpet. Your going to need a Carpet Brush/Rake to groom carpet after cleaning to get swirl marks out

 

[george8585]

George i did that medical office and used excellent supply Basic Release It and does clean just like Release It DS2 and has a great orange scent .I used the hawk rotary Glide with the blue fiber plus pad and then extracting with Glad pads. Will call bonnet Pro to find out shipping costs for my last toy LOL

Peter I just saw on Bonnet Pro Face Book Page a MiniMax is going to Peter on Monday

Good luck with that last toy

Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the MiniMax

 

[george8585]

I ended up getting a 17" Mercury off Craigslist. Don't think it was ever used, guy said his apartment couldn't run it well without throwing switches and that's all he got it for.

What's your agitation pad and extracting bonnet of choice now? I ended up starting with carpet details as chem. Your thread is a gold mine of information for VLM.

Both of these guys use a 175 for VLM

Subscribe to their You Tube Channels

Lots of good info there





Washington Pro Carpet Cleaning








Oxy-Dry Carpet Cleaning

 

[Parks]

Both of these guys use a 175 for VLM

Subscribe to their You Tube Channels

Lots of good info there

I actually already watch them both. Thank you for the share, I've read all of your posts in this thread and the other encap ones as well. Peter and you have all the information laid out there perfectly.

 

[peterbreen]

Yes George i ordered the MERCEDES of Rotaries. Minni Max color Red $3995.00 before April 1st. Did get the Multi wash brush system added to order $4500 shipping included. Just turned 69 and loving what i do Will tell you how it cleans Thurs have 2 apartments

 

[peterbreen]

Parks as George will tell you Ive used almost every encap out there LOL always looking for a Great labor saving product they all clean but some will cut your labor down and leave a great clean. Its a smorgage board of products on the market. Today i now use Carpet Details encap and hot water, alot more uses with it as a pre spray a water softner a degreaser vct, tile&grout food floors , ,wool rugs upholstery, wall & ceiling washer. It is a. safe leave behind spotter the best part is no soap means no residue no wicking. Today i am using Excellent supply Basic Re Lease it for commerial and residential but mostly commercial with Carpet Details for your Green cleaning and Re lease it for your thrash jobs you should be ok

 

[george8585]

The encaps we have today and machines just continue to get better

I made a good decision when I switched to VLM in 2019

I love VLM !!!




It took Bonnet Pro about 4 Years to come out with these machines

They look beautiful




The Bonnet Pro MiniMax Line Up


Starting from the left ...

Ultra Glide with Satellite Spray System

Terminator

Ultra Glide

Power Scrubber

 

[Parks]

Did my first carpet today and it came out amazing! Used Mercury Lo Boy 17" and carpet details. Only complaint was that I used the Oreck Orbiter with one of my red scrubbing pads ( zinger red pads from encapstore) and instantly ruined it trying to take it off the damn velcro pad driver.. Lol sounds like the same issue I've read about you vibe users accidentally getting iron man bonnets stuck to the bottom.

Machine was kind of working me hard too I can see how it takes a bit to get into the groove of using a 175.

Do you guys offer stretching too?

 

[peterbreen]

Im in good with a carpet store and they install and stretch. I send work to them and they refer me for cleaning. remove the oreck driver nubs and glue velcro strips or larger velcro to the driver.

 

[Parks]

I'm hoping to have a encap success post here coming soon with pictures. Doing a berber that hasn't been cleaned ever in the 20 years it's been in their house. I'm planning on using 175/orbiter superchain uncapped with blue microfiber pads for agitation and ironmans to extract.

I've never done a berber, will ironman still work good on them? Also how about the grooming, all I have is the grandi rake which I am not a fan of.. feels very cheap. I'm sure you guys got a better grooming rake, what do you guys have?

 

[george8585]

Ironman will work on berber and you won't need to groom berber



Here are the 2 Carpet Brushes I use to groom

The Brush on the left is at least 20 Years old and the Brush on the right is a Whittaker Carpet Roamer

Most of the time I use a 10'' CRB to groom carpet but some carpets look just as good or better with a brush and it's much faster grooming with a Brush

 

[Parks]

Thanks for the info.

Have you guys seen Zerorez before? This is a pretty darn good ad besides what their saying.