Best PSI

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What is the best PSI for cleaning carpets with a porty? I have seen machines from 100PSI to 500 PSI. Some machines have 1200PSI for grout. What is the best PSI and why? Mytee M-12 Has 1200 PSI for grout and 250 PSI for carpet, is 200 enough? What about upholstery? Thanks
 

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I have only used 500psi and was plenty happy with it. For my next porty, I would like to stay around 500psi.
 

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I recently went from 200 to 500 psi, and I don't think I could go back now, the difference is that big for me. You can still clean with a lower psi, it just takes a lot longer.

However, I think the more important question is how much flow is your pump going to put out. If you don't match your jets to what your pump is putting out, you'll never realize the real psi that you're shooting for.
 

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Mr T;

500 psi.............but it better have: GOOD FLOW , or it really wouldn't matter! Big difference.


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Ed Valentine
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I recently went from 200 to 500 psi, and I don't think I could go back now, the difference is that big for me. You can still clean with a lower psi, it just takes a lot longer.

However, I think the more important question is how much flow is your pump going to put out. If you don't match your jets to what your pump is putting out, you'll never realize the real psi that you're shooting for.

Does the wand that comes with the portable have the proper jets for the PSI, or do you have to match them? What would be the best jets for 500 PSI?
 

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I have 11003 jets on my porties and have the pump at 50-60 psi.. using two 3 stage vacs and a velocity tube It always comes out like used motor oil. and It smells just like fresh textile when its done.. I wont break any speed records, but an average 800 sf carpet is about 2 hours using the lil bugger. includeds prespray, setup vacuuming etc. uses about 10 gallons on a bad carpet as little as 4 gallons on a custy who always uses us without any residues the carpet cleans soo great..
 

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what up wes,

I got my pumtec 112 and motor all taken care of,seems to be workin well oohh and i also replaced the unloader too!I see you got your pumptec 205 hooked up,cool!How about the dry times between the two pumps are they about the same?
 

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Hey Daniel,

Dry times are about the same the new pump. Even though it's putting out a TON more water. I could never go back to 200 psi. Shoot me a PM, I have plenty of picks if you want to see them.
 

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Mr. T The whole purpose of psi in the extraction process is to create impact. The equation for impact is Impact = GPM x the square root of psi.
 

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Does the wand that comes with the portable have the proper jets for the PSI, or do you have to match them? What would be the best jets for 500 PSI?
Again, the most important thing to remember is how many GPM your pump is flowing.

Here's a link to a cheat sheet that you can cross reference your psi and jet size. Then you'll know how much flow you need to keep up.

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So to answer your question directly. My porty came with a AW29 wand with two 02 jets. At 500 psi they each flow .71 gpm or 1.42 gpm with both of them running. My pump is capable of 1.6 gpm at 500 psi, so I never drop below my desired psi range as long as I use jets that don't flow more than my pump.
 
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Again, the most important thing to remember is how many GPM your pump is flowing.

Here's a link to a cheat sheet that you can cross reference your psi and jet size. Then you'll know how much flow you need to keep up.

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So to answer your question directly. My porty came with a AW29 wand with two 02 jets. At 500 psi they each flow .71 gpm or 1.42 gpm with both of them running. My pump is capable of 1.6 gpm at 500 psi, so I never drop below my desired psi range as long as I use jets that don't flow more than my pump.
Wes- I'd like to know if you have ever measured your flow. If you have not its pretty easy. Spray your wand into a 5 gallon bucket for 1 minute and weigh it. Take the total weight and subtract 2-3 lbs ( the buckets weight). This will give you the weight of the water. Divide this weight by 8.33 and you get your flow rate in gpm. 8.33 lbs is the weight of a gallon of water. Mike
 
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Thanks for all the great info. I am trying to soak it all in. Still comparing equipment so I can start purchasing some.
 

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Wes- I'd like to know if you have ever measured your flow. If you have not its pretty easy. Spray your wand into a 5 gallon bucket for 1 minute and weigh it. Take the total weight and subtract 2-3 lbs ( the buckets weight). This will give you the weight of the water. Divide this weight by 8.33 and you get your flow rate in gpm. 8.33 lbs is the weight of a gallon of water. Mike
Hey Mike,

I haven't used your formula before, but I'll give it a shoot when I get a chance. I've done something similar, but I measured volume not weight. For me that seems to be the most accurate way of measuring my flow. I know that most of the formulas that we deal with are used to be exact, but they don't usually take into account for imperfections in the machine or other variables like restrictions, water temp, or exactly how much voltage your pump is getting.

I guess I'm asking if you think the table Pumptec has is inaccurate? It seems to be fairly close to what I've come across in my findings.

I'll give your method a shot and compare it to my volume test. Thanks.
 

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Hey Mike,

I haven't used your formula before, but I'll give it a shoot when I get a chance. I've done something similar, but I measured volume not weight. For me that seems to be the most accurate way of measuring my flow. I know that most of the formulas that we deal with are used to be exact, but they don't usually take into account for imperfections in the machine or other variables like restrictions, water temp, or exactly how much voltage your pump is getting.

I guess I'm asking if you think the table Pumptec has is inaccurate? It seems to be fairly close to what I've come across in my findings.

I'll give your method a shot and compare it to my volume test. Thanks.
Wes- The Pumptec chart is accurate and very valuable to people who want to know the power of there cleaning system. If your pressure at your SPRAY JET is 500 psi you will get that flow. I would make a somewhat educated guess that the pressure at your jet is closer to 100 psi. To know for sure you have to get your actual flow rate, then you can use the Pumptec chart to determine your pressure at the jets. An easier yet a little less accurate way to measure your flow rate is to spray your wand into a bucket for 1 minute then use a funnel to pour the water into a 1 gallon bottle. I would be surprised if you got more than a gallon. Dinner on me if you do. Mike
 

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Wes- The Pumptec chart is accurate and very valuable to people who want to know the power of there cleaning system. If your pressure at your SPRAY JET is 500 psi you will get that flow. I would make a somewhat educated guess that the pressure at your jet is closer to 100 psi. To know for sure you have to get your actual flow rate, then you can use the Pumptec chart to determine your pressure at the jets. An easier yet a little less accurate way to measure your flow rate is to spray your wand into a bucket for 1 minute then use a funnel to pour the water into a 1 gallon bottle. I would be surprised if you got more than a gallon. Dinner on me if you do. Mike
Do I get to eat anywhere I want?!

Just kidding.

But seriously, I know that my flow rates are accurate. I've done a lot of volume testing to get my numbers. If I do what your ask with a 5 gal bucket, my wand will put down about 1.3 gpm, I even measured it again today. The wand that I'm using is a AW29 with two 02 jets. I regulate my pump to 450 psi so I don't run the chance of hurting the motor.

If you cross reference those jets with the psi that I'm using everything adds up perfect. I know most machines down flow those numbers, but I custom built mine so I could run my tools at the psi that I wanted.
 

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Do I get to eat anywhere I want?!

Just kidding.

But seriously, I know that my flow rates are accurate. I've done a lot of volume testing to get my numbers. If I do what your ask with a 5 gal bucket, my wand will put down about 1.3 gpm, I even measured it again today. The wand that I'm using is a AW29 with two 02 jets. I regulate my pump to 450 psi so I don't run the chance of hurting the motor.

If you cross reference those jets with the psi that I'm using everything adds up perfect. I know most machines down flow those numbers, but I custom built mine so I could run my tools at the psi that I wanted.
Wes- Before I buy you dinner how do you do volume testing........Mike
 

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