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Ed Cruz

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If I’m doing an area of a home that I’m just gonna VLM I scrub with the swing machine the throw the Ironman bonnets on it and pad it down.
 

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If I’m doing an area of a home that I’m just gonna VLM I scrub with the swing machine the throw the Ironman bonnets on it and pad it down.
That works good as well and you only need one machine instead of two. You can't put a bonnet on a CRB.

But on certain carpet types I like the CRB better then a 175 swing machine.

So i'd CRB then use a bonnet on an OP machine
 

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If I’m doing an area of a home that I’m just gonna VLM I scrub with the swing machine the throw the Ironman bonnets on it and pad it down.
A 175 and Ironman Bonnet does a great job with VLM.

I have a 13'' Hawk 175-300 and love it but I prefer a OP for occupied residential.

I mostly use the 175-300 when doing rentals. Usually use a CRB first then a Iron man on the 175-300.

You don't realize how slow a 175 is until you use 300.
 

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I'm about to switch 175's my current one is 100 pounds, i'm considering getting a koblenz 17 inch that weighs 82 pounds.
or they have a 13 inch that weighs 61 pounds but the motor is not as strong 13 inch has a 3/4 hp motor 17 inch has 1.5 hp motor

Gotta do what i can to save my back, every little bit helps
not in my 20's anymore, i just hit 60
 

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Some Nasty nylon berber...hwe did amazing black label prespray boosted with citrus zyme and a little unchained. Rinsed with procyon powder plus and followed up with my 13 in and some iron man bonnets. Next time I am ordering 15in bonnets to have some edge to work with.
 
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I'm about to switch 175's my current one is 100 pounds, i'm considering getting a koblenz 17 inch that weighs 82 pounds.
or they have a 13 inch that weighs 61 pounds but the motor is not as strong 13 inch has a 3/4 hp motor 17 inch has 1.5 hp motor

Gotta do what i can to save my back, every little bit helps
not in my 20's anymore, i just hit 60

Isn't 17'' too big for residential and 82 pounds is not light.
I have a 13'' and love it.
Not sure what size motor it has or the weight.

But I hated carrying the 13'' up and down stairs. Same with the Challenger. Those damn small wheels. Challenger is 68 pounds.

That's why I love my Odyssey. 60 pounds with 8'' wheels, goes up and down easily. Fast, quiet and aggressive !!!
 

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Isn't 17'' too big for residential and 82 pounds is not light.
I have a 13'' and love it.
Not sure what size motor it has or the weight.

But I hated carrying the 13'' up and down stairs. Same with the Challenger. Those damn small wheels. Challenger is 68 pounds.

That's why I love my Odyssey. 60 pounds with 8'' wheels, goes up and down easily. Fast, quiet and aggressive !!!
17 inch is all i've ever used to be honest, actually 15 inch would probably be the sweet spot. But i've never had a problem with the 17 inch even in residential
Its just used for traffic area's anyway, but when i get an empty house the 17 inch is nice to have

your right, 82 pounds is not light but my current one is like 105 pounds that 25 pounds will make a difference for me

I may still go with the koblenz 13 inch at only 61 pounds, still trying to decide.

But an 8 pound difference between challenger and odyssey is not even worth discussing, the bigger wheels for pulling up steps yes that is a big plus

But i have no problems carrying the challenger up steps anyway, it does have a handle on the base and 68 pounds is not that bad.

Besides, thats what a helper is for if need be.

I'm gonna keep the challenger for now but as for the 175 machine I will either get a 17 inch 82 pound or 13 inch 61 pound

I just don't want to end up regretting not getting the 17 inch if i go with the 13 inch

of course i can keep my current 17 inch to use when i get an empty, and use the 13 inch for everything else.