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Ok I was able to get 400 cfm with my mytee 1003dx, only 3 cords and 20 amps each cord if you want to use a heater.
the lift increased from 11Hg to 12 HG.
Once again my theory is true, even if you increase cfm it will also increase some lift, if you increase lift it will also increase some cfm.
 

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Hey man, congrats! This is a historic day in porty history....
 

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Is that taken from the 2 inch barb directly? Are you saying 400 cfm on 3 cords machine only? How many vac motors? I know it is hard to video and do everything by yourself; get a helper and redo video; btw Congrats; seems that measurement should be taken on a standard 50 foot length of hose though.
 

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Jaime;

"Once again my theory is true, even if you increase cfm it will also increase some lift, if you increase lift it will also increase some cfm."

We have stated that since 1977. You are correct, sir.

Very best always;
Ed Valentine
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Looks good Locko!! Test again at 50' and 100' to see how much drop you get!! Keep up the great work!


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yep, I know E, this is just a little taste, i will do the test when I get time, but as you know many companies claim the cfm or lift at the machine.
I could do a better video but i did it with my cellphone, and the battery was almost dead.
400 cfm with 4 vac motors and 2 cords, I know I can get over than 500 cfm with 4 motors and 2 cords, i just don't have enough time and I 'd need to spend more money on those and really I am no getting anything back.

BTW I have a great idea for a electric truckmount, that might get 650 cfm, I know it might sound crazy, but i have proved with videos and pictures about what I can do. First was pictures from my modified eclipse with 21 Hg, and recently i found a mistake I did, if I correct it I might pull a little more lift, now 400 cfm portable with 2000 watts heater, 450 psi pump and using only 3 cords.

BTW guys I am working with the arc reactor so we won;t need even the generator and a propane/diesel heater HAHHAHA.
 
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You do not need more than 2 cords to reach 400+ Cfm.

But you will never see 500 cfm with only 4 motors in parallel either. Even if each motor was rated at 125 cfm, losses from air movement mean the total recorded value will always be lower than 500 cfm.
 

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Ken, probably, with your studies, i have others ways how to get it done. do not worry that is my problem. but i will get it done.
the best from anybody that is my start point.
BTW, the 2 paralell and 1 series is not the best set up for a portable. I did a test of your set up, I know it improved but no with the best efficiency.
only improve the lift by 33% and for me is low. sorry no 33% it was 27.27% exactly.
 
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My Titan X4 uses the most powerful motors you can get(630 air watts each) and are rated at 125 cfm maximum each, but you do not see 500 cfm with them. The highest reading was 463 cfm because of frictional losses in the system. It is Larry Cobb who thinks the most effective set-up is the parallel-Series arrangement . I set up my own machines either all parallel or all series with 3 motors. If 4 motors are used however I do think the 2 series hooked up in parallel is the strongest system.:)
 

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Now, if only someone can design a high power porty with an adjustable 1200psi to clean carpet and grout would be outstanding!
 

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Frank, that i already fixed in my mind, this morning woke up with the answer.
Ken, with 630 airwatts motors that will be over than 13 amps, now x 2 26, on series will drop only 1 amps per motor so that will be 24 amps, it will trip the brakers, now add the pump, if you want to go long distance you will need a 650 psi pump, and the motor gotta be 4 amps, yes you can lower the amps putting a 1.5 inches hose inside of the vacuum motor horn, but that will decrease the power=cfm+lift (and this is what we want right?) so that defeat the purpose.
for you x4 titan to drive it ti its peak performance you will need at least 4 cords.
also I am talking a real electric truckmount, not a portable, this means it will stay in the vehicle.
It will cost me a lot less than a TM, easy to fix, cheaper to fix, really fewer parts, so realible, you can stock parts for job site fix. etc etc.
 

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Locko, hurry up designing that monster porty! LOL

My dilemma has been wether to buy a high performance 500psi porty and use a Water Otter for tile and grout or buy the M-12 which cleans carpet(only 250psi), and it only has 2-2stage vacs and I don't think it has enough power to run 75-100' hose runs in those rare occassions.
 

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I don't know the model i need to check, Rob Allen let me use it for now, i need to get mine, I think Richard Balwin also has the same, you need to have the 3 inches diameter funnel,to get a closser accuracy with the reading.
 
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Frank, that i already fixed in my mind, this morning woke up with the answer.
Ken, with 630 airwatts motors that will be over than 13 amps, now x 2 26, on series will drop only 1 amps per motor so that will be 24 amps, it will trip the brakers, now add the pump, if you want to go long distance you will need a 650 psi pump, and the motor gotta be 4 amps, yes you can lower the amps putting a 1.5 inches hose inside of the vacuum motor horn, but that will decrease the power=cfm+lift (and this is what we want right?) so that defeat the purpose.
for you x4 titan to drive it ti its peak performance you will need at least 4 cords.
also I am talking a real electric truckmount, not a portable, this means it will stay in the vehicle.
It will cost me a lot less than a TM, easy to fix, cheaper to fix, really fewer parts, so realible, you can stock parts for job site fix. etc etc.
Nope.

Not over 13 amps each Locko. That might be the case with those LMB2A motors you are using. These motors only draw 10 amps each in operation. The Pump used only draws 2 amps.

Did you know that every 20 amp circuit is able to go up to 15% ABOVE its rating without tripping the breaker?

It means you can run 2 -3 stage vac motors AND a 2 amp pump on a regular 20 amp circuit and NOT TRIP THE BREAKER.

Add 2 more motors on another 20 amp circuit and you have a 4 vac portable using all 3 stage vacuums with a 400 to 500 psi pump on only 2 cords, not 4 cords. 4 cords are only for those that don't know how to set it up.:)
 

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not a problem, I sell their meters just need the #

I don't know the model i need to check, Rob Allen let me use it for now, i need to get mine, I think Richard Balwin also has the same, you need to have the 3 inches diameter funnel,to get a closser accuracy with the reading.