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2-3 stages, 1-2 stage, and a Cross American Booster over 400 cfm's

robbighead

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Luckyyyyy!

I have to go really slow with my 94 cfm's

still not sure what I'm gonna do before spring comes around.:AddEmoticons04259:

I started my biz last Feb with $2,500 and no clients, no written business plan. Sheesh, can't believe I made it this far. I definetly
need some performance upgrades though.
 
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Rob;

If your machine actually produced 94 cfms when you were cleaning with it you would be able to go fast.

Fact is your single motor machine probably only produces somewhere around 30 cfms while you are cleaning with it, unless you got a glide on that wand. Then you may have around 40 cfms IMO.
 

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I love my Cross American XPS and Booster. They provide me with awesome suction at considerable hose length's when needed. I have never own a more dependable machine.

:bigsmiley:peace
Rick, did you need to post that? you waste your time, I think you better post a video working with recoil and you secret sauce. Then I can believe everything you say.
 

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I don't know< I start having the feeling that this whole industry is a mess.
When I asked Ed for the references, person number 1 was Rickie.
Then ken harris, told me he fabricate wands, but i got it from this company does not support TMF, then sombebody tell me there are only 3 manufacters, PMF (production metal forming), then CMP (california metal production), and westpak and maybe prochem, ken Harry told me the wand I got was from wandglides, but the cmp Ken Harris sold, came with the greenglides, I just don't care, I but nobody in the industry tells the truth.
I am really tired of this crap. everybody is frigging lying in here.
 

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I don't know< I start having the feeling that this whole industry is a mess.
When I asked Ed for the references, person number 1 was Rickie.
Then ken harris, told me he fabricate wands, but i got it from this company does not support TMF, then sombebody tell me there are only 3 manufacters, PMF (production metal forming), then CMP (california metal production), and westpak and maybe prochem, ken Harry told me the wand I got was from wandglides, but the cmp Ken Harris sold, came with the greenglides, I just don't care, I but nobody in the industry tells the truth.
I am really tired of this crap. everybody is frigging lying in here.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man, I belong to a lot of forums, and the carpet cleaning forums have BY FAR......the most drama!!!!

Locko, if you are that interested in the Recoil why don't you go down and talk to Ed in person and demo one?

BTW-I kinda like the mess (drama) Locko!!!
 
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I don't know< I start having the feeling that this whole industry is a mess.
When I asked Ed for the references, person number 1 was Rickie.
Then ken harris, told me he fabricate wands, but i got it from this company does not support TMF, then sombebody tell me there are only 3 manufacters, PMF (production metal forming), then CMP (california metal production), and westpak and maybe prochem, ken Harry told me the wand I got was from wandglides, but the cmp Ken Harris sold, came with the greenglides, I just don't care, I but nobody in the industry tells the truth.
I am really tired of this crap. everybody is frigging lying in here.

I don't think anyone is lying to you Locko. You just never got the whole story is all.

I will straighten it out for you:

Ed does use Rickie for a reference, alot. But that is because Ricki is one of ED's #1 boosters. Nothing wrong with that.

My company does Fabricate our own wands, but only the titanium ones(PKM) for the North American markets. We are such a small producer that we could not compete with the giants of this industry which are:

Production Metal Forming(PMF)
California Metal Production(CMP)
WestPak(WP)
Prochem(PC)

So the steel wands we do sell are made by those 4 Giant producers and we just improve on their basic designs by putting in soft touch valves , angled jetting , extensions and filters, and adding glides. That is not building a wand, only improving it so it works better.I have different companies in the industries that do the modifications for me to my specifications. This is done to save money for my customers in shipping from Canada which costs $100 and can take up to 2 weeks.Cobb Carpet ships the CMP wands for me so I only have to charge $50 for shipping and can deliver wands in and average of 5 days. That makes people happy.Cobb stocks my Superslides, but if they run out, they put on another glide of equal quality. That is what happened in your case.I knew nothing about it till I heard you post of it.

None of that means anyone is lying to you.:bigsmiley:
 
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man, I belong to a lot of forums, and the carpet cleaning forums have BY FAR......the most drama!!!!

Locko, if you are that interested in the Recoil why don't you go down and talk to Ed in person and demo one?

BTW-I kinda like the mess (drama) Locko!!!

Yeah Floorguy, so do I. Kinda keeps life interesting. There would be alot more complaining (and lower readership) if it was as boring as tears here.haha
 

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It is simple Locko. All Ken and Rickie need to do is get a Flip for 75 bucks off Ebay, film their machines with a cfm meter and then we will see who is lying. I would think Ken being a big time distributor would be up for the challenge and could afford a Flip.
 

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Ken, you said you fabricate the wands, and now you just improve them, man it is nothing personal, but if you work as a sale person for Cobb, then just say it, Scott Warrington is most of the time oushing for bridgepoint products because he works for that company and i understand. But the thing that doesn't make any sense is why the glide that came in my cmp wand was a greenglide when you sell wandglides.
 

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Jaime;

I would like to clarify what you are suggesting here if I may.

When you contacted us during the conversation or on your request (either or) I offered you approx 5-6 Individuals whom I thought were very unique with very interesting experiences and backgrounds perhaps, far beyond what the normal Operator may have in this Industry. I did this because I thought you'd be most appreciative.

Among others, Rickie worked aboard an US Navy Aircraft carrier and worked on the high tech Jet Engines. His conversations (all extremely interesting btw) go far beyond "just a component", but rather speaks and describes the importance of design..."and why"...and "how" a specific design makes a hugh difference in efficiency, etc...

Now, I think as well as many many others that that IS interesting to hear. And, that is why Rickie was just ONE of the recommendations I gave to you. I do have hundreds of others if you didn't like that one?

Anyways, hope this answers your comment (??)

The very best;
Ed Valentine
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I love my Cross American XPS and Booster. They provide me with awesome suction at considerable hose length's when needed. I have never own a more dependable machine.

:bigsmiley:peace

Ed Valentine and Rickie are good friends . This statement was designed to increase sales for Cross American in which Rickie...(Edited libelous remark) Ed tries to qualify Rickie to make these type of statements as being true by saying that Rickie used to work for the US Navy so therefore he is honest and telling the truth.

And that Rickie knows how to design systems . The Recoil design is not anything different then the rest of the machines out there . This is just ridiculous and it would turn me off to buying anything from CA .

ThIs type of statement from Ed , Jan sullins and Rickie make me think that Cross Amercian is getting desperate for sales .

JAN S sells recoils for Ed or he use too . He has a agenda .

If they dont change there ways CA will be out of business in a year or 2 .

This is a sign of desperation IMO.
 

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An you don't think this goes on in other companies. Take a look at your own testimonials and why you chose to use them. Before I bought a Recoil I PM people this board that owned them and got their input. Then dealt with Jan & Ed. I feel it was a good experence and am satified with the equipment and it's proformance so far. It was just like buying any other piece of equipment
 

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Frank makes a good point. Now here is the solution to the drama


Ken,Rickie and Ed get off your cheap, high talking sorry azz's and buy a little Flip camera. For 75.00 bucks you can take a cfm meter, lift meter and record your super sucking incredible mind blowing secret technology outrageous cfm and far fetched lift claim machines on video and put all us stupid non-knowing dumb azz drama loving carpet cleaners who don't know there azz from a hole in the ground talk to rest. If not shut up or put up. Cause no one believes you, not even us stupid carpet cleaners until you put your money where your mouth is.

Yeah, just because you claim to build super suckers doesn't mean that we are all super suckers.
:mad::mad::mad:
 

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Yep, I took pictures why not you guys.
I am not saying I will never buy a recoil, or a mytee or an optima. I thin the customer has the right to know the truth.
Ken couldn't belive when I sai portable can make 21 i Hg, tehn I posted pictures and he said nice.
it is too much to ask a video or a picture of the recoil or mytee or the optima or any other machine on the market.
Masterblend is a honest company, they say the truckforce was 14 in Hg, and i measured and yep it was 14.
cleancraft was a lied they said 340 inches of lift that is equal to 24.5 in Hg, and that was not true at all, it was a lot less 210 inches aprox. This whole market is a lie. I f you know the product is good why not to show it?
 
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Ken, you said you fabricate the wands, and now you just improve them, man it is nothing personal, but if you work as a sale person for Cobb, then just say it, Scott Warrington is most of the time oushing for bridgepoint products because he works for that company and i understand. But the thing that doesn't make any sense is why the glide that came in my cmp wand was a greenglide when you sell wandglides.
Locko;

I do not work for Cobb Carpet and receive no compensation whenever I promote that company. I have a business relationship with them because they have been one of the top distributors for our products for more than 10 years now. I ask them to build a few of the products I sell because of their proximity to the major markets we serve and to deliver products fast, which was a problem in the past when nearly everything shipped from Canada. That is full disclosure.

Now I also ship my Superslides from here in Calgary to Cobb Carpet in Dallas. Due to me selling more wands lately sometimes the supply of Superslides runs out before the next shipment arrives. In that case, rather than hold up the order, another glide of equal quality gets substituted. That happened in your case because your delivery needed to be rushed as per your directions. I really don't see what the fuss is about. If you want to switch the glide you received for a Superslide instead, I will do that for you. I have them instock now to do that.:bigsmiley:
 
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Frank makes a good point. Now here is the solution to the drama


Ken,Rickie and Ed get off your cheap, high talking sorry azz's and buy a little Flip camera. For 75.00 bucks you can take a cfm meter, lift meter and record your super sucking incredible mind blowing secret technology outrageous cfm and far fetched lift claim machines on video and put all us stupid non-knowing dumb azz drama loving carpet cleaners who don't know there azz from a hole in the ground talk to rest. If not shut up or put up. Cause no one believes you, not even us stupid carpet cleaners until you put your money where your mouth is.

Yeah, just because you claim to build super suckers doesn't mean that we are all super suckers.
:mad::mad::mad:

Now where's the fun in doing that Keith? Then some of you would not have to ***** and complain about these things, less people would want to read about it, and everybody would get bored out of their skulls.

No I think I like things better as they are now.:bigsmiley:
 

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Now where's the fun in doing that Keith? Then some of you would not have to ***** and complain about these things, less people would want to read about it, and everybody would get bored out of their skulls.

No I think I like things better as they are now.:bigsmiley:
You might like things the way they are Ken but rest assured, I am starting to tire of if and i would assume many members feel the same way also.
You was asked to simply put up a vid to back the claim you say your machine can achieve.
A simple solution would be to either put up a vid or to stop making claims without proof.

Mick